http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/pro......tem=6703

Sounds like a "Raven" to me.

I'm interested in this as well. I doubt it's anything like a raven since it's a holdout and the set up is completely different. I just wonder how good it is and how much unnecessary arm movement is needed.

Magic Pro Shop has it:

http://www.magicproshop.com/incredible-m......148.html

Sounds more like Antonio Romero's Perfect Holdout, but at a more reasonable price.

Has anyone bought one of these? Can you solve the mystery of what exactly it is?

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I think that is similar to Chazpro's PK (Magnetic) Topit. Chazpro sells them on eBay. Go to Chazpro's site on eBay to see a picture of one. They look pretty cool. I've got lots of great ideas for this new item...

Did anybody ever get this? It sounds a lot like the Black Widow but for a fraction of the price. Anybody?

I will be getting mine next week. I live 1 hour away, and have seen it close up. I have not seen the device, but have seen it in action, and the reactions it gets. I will be there at midnight, if Phil the owner of Kind Of MAgic will be open. He is the only one known to have one in action. I am glad I live so close. Hope to give you a review on how it works(but not it's construction) as soon as I get it.

I look forward to it Irishghost.

Did you see the demo for Black Widow on http://www.kwmagic.com ?

So far you are the only person that has, or can see both products. Do they do the same type of effects?

Did we ever get a review on this?

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=109 has as much of a review as this deserves. You will need to find out how to adjust one of these things properly before it will work. The instructions seem to be incorrect to me.