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Eclipse New user 10 Posts |
Hi, I am wondering if any one knows any breeders who may deal in birds such as ravens or crows. I am deeply interested in making one or both part of my act, but I have not been able to find a source. Now before I am showered with recriminations and warnings, I realize that crows and ravens are much different than softer, kinder creatures such as doves. I am a falconer and I have experience dealing with predatory birds. So, any ideas? Know any breeders?
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Daktari Regular user USA 154 Posts |
Federal Law prohibits the ownership of most migratory birds. Crows and ravens (corvidae) fall into this category. The Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 and it's amendments are an agreement between the US and 4 other countries to protect migratory birds (Russia, Mexico, Japan and Canada). They (corvidae) weren't added to the treaty until 1972. Rehab centers and zoos are exceptions that require federal permits. However most protected species that reside in zoos are unable to be released into the wild due to injury or because their numbers are too low in the wild to insure survival of that species. So contrary to what someone may tell you it is illegal to possess a live crow/raven that is native to the US.
Posted: Mar 9, 2006 9:14pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just realized that I should rephrase something. Certain species can be held for educational purposes, propogation, religious, etc. It must be noted that it may not be for commercial purposes though. Same type of procedure as required for falconry, standard US Fish and Game application. |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Owning a crow is going to keep you busy defending why you have it. However, there is something called a Chuckur Quail that is about the same mass but more colorful. And you can own them. I would rather have a bantum chicken but that is your call.
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JAlenS Inner circle Utah 1526 Posts |
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On 2006-03-09 21:06, Daktari wrote: Does bizarre count as a religion? Just Kidding. I've often thought of using a crow or raven. If one of these could be shipped from another country wouldn't that defeat the Migratory Bird Treaty Act? Crows and ravens are exremely smart and trainable I've heard. They are extraordinary animals. I've also heard they can talk like a parrott. I'll have to check and see if vultures are protected under the treaty. I don't think they are migratory but I don't know yet. Anyone ever worked with a vulture? |
Lou Hilario Inner circle 2235 Posts |
Eclipse, may I know how you plan to include a crow / raven in your show? Crows can be trained to free fly and talk like mynahs. Problem is that they are mostly black and are not attractive on stage.
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fccfp Special user NJ 563 Posts |
What about the bird they used in the movie "The Crow" and it's sequels? That was obviously a trained bird.
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