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Nick Wait Inner circle Lichfield, UK 1042 Posts |
Hi
I've been looking into adding this into my show for sometime. I am a magician and not an escape artist. It would be my first big escape unless you count a sub trunk. However the milkcans I have seen are all quite expensive espescially as I am uncertain to how it will play never trying out much escapology before. I wqas wandering if the osbourne plans are any good? And if so from them would I be abloe to provide the forger with a milkcan of my own and gimmick appropriately, or would he have to build one from scratch. Also how large should the milkcans be, as I have found some on ebay but they all seem quite small. What is the standar size/ Thanks alot Nick |
Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Try out a mates for size and working first, then hire one as a try out,then if it`s worth going for and you can make it pay for itself shop around,,,look at cannons website for an alternative.
Really think about it. 1)Who can associate with a churn these days. 2)Have you assistants. 3)Look at the logistics of transporting this. 4)Is it to be concealed or visual. 5)Would the added wieght,cost,cost of assistants,mess of water etc etc warrant this as a good idea? 6)Will it increase your fee. Ken. |
freefallillusion1 Elite user Cincinnati, OH 446 Posts |
Nick,
At the risk of stating the obvious, this is a very dangerous escape. Not to dissuade you from doing it, just be sure to go about it correctly. To answer some questions: No, you don't want to try to gimmick an existing can, because your life depends on this being done right. You'll need to buy one already set. You could also get the new plans and try to make your own from scratch. I haven't seen these particular plans, but my experience has been that anything from Paul Osbourne is very good. I performed this particular escape 3 times while my new glass water tank escape was being finished. During those shows, it occured to me that the milk can is more dangerous than any sort of water torture cell made of glass. This is for the simple reason that even though your assistants know the routine and exactly what's supposed to happen, (and when), they can see you (and closely monitor your safety) during any of the glass tank escapes. They would know immediately if there was a problem. In the case of the milk can, however, you could theoretically have a problem early on, and no one might know until it was too late. Just some food for thought! Good luck! Phil |
Richard Sherry Veteran user Calgary, AB, Canada 313 Posts |
Hello Nick
I have had the good fortune to have performed both the milkcan and the drum escape on numerous occasions. The milkcan plays much better by far. It is not some unknown archaic relic. If you can be fortunate enough to get a local dairy to sponser you all the better.Fill it with water and add powdered milk. A drum is not nearly as imposing. My experience with Osbourne plans is that they leave much to be desired if you are not reasonably experienced with tools and building techniques.There is much to figure out on your own. |
Nick Wait Inner circle Lichfield, UK 1042 Posts |
That is what I felt, I felt that although the oil drum is muchmore recognisable the milkcan id far from obsolete. It is a famous escape. Also the fact thatthe milkcan looks like there is a lot less room in it. And it is form me much more aestheticall pleasing for the audience. So my new question is how much will a milkcan escape cost if I am not to build one.
Nick |
Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
I'd suggest checking Richard Sherry's website.
http://www.richardsherrysmagic.com I've not used his stuff myself, but I've heard nothing but good things about it.
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Tony Chapparo Special user Albuquerque, NM 704 Posts |
To echo some of the above sentiment, this is quite dangerous. I have performed my version of the water filled 55 gallon drum many times with no problems until I had the S*** scared out of me on Haloween weekend during a practice run. I have ironed out the kinks and now have a NEAR foolproof escape. The milkcan, although I have never owned one needs to be handled with extreme care during transport and handling between shows. I would go with the drum or a tank, as some others have mentioned they are much safer.
Tony
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