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Michael Berends Loyal user Canada 220 Posts |
Hi All,
Just about to build a new Close-up table amd am looking for the best surface to place on it. I will be doing some Chink a Chink and Matrix style routines. I've played around with Velvet, Neoprene, and Close-up pads in the past. Just want to make sure that it's a good sliding surface. What have some of you used with success? Thanks, Mike
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
For coins I like Duffy's Pads(they are a type of neoprene).
Its very slippery and coins slide great |
Dan LeFay Inner circle Holland 1371 Posts |
Mike,
What a coincidence. I just finished yesterday my close-up table. The 3rd I made. I pondered long what the surface had to be. Since this table is made for stand-up situations (trade-show work and formal stand-up) it is an unscrewable tripod base with one long leg. Normally I use Dean Dill pads which are simply the best. The only thing is they are a little too thin to be screwed on a flange. Also they are so soft that if you leave a heavy pair of jumbo cups for some time on it, it may leave an impression on the surface. I decided to emulate a Dean Dill pad by using triple velvet on only 5 mm foam. It is smooth, has just enough give for pick-up moves (which is not a major issue for stand up work)and it can withstand longer times of pressure. Looks tres chique! If your hands have a normal dampness for doing coin-sliding-techniques, use triple velvet. If you have very dry hands you might want to try something else.
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Dan LeFay Inner circle Holland 1371 Posts |
I agree on the Duffy pad. Smoothest surface I've seen. Therefor ideal for chinc-a-chinc. But don't try to do a slick mexican turnover...
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
I don't think I use a single mexican turnover for pad work, but I DO do a lot of edge/double work with cards.(a lot of hard double handlings)
I had a REALLY hard time with doubles at first on the Duffy pad, I couldn't even do some of the stuff I could do on a "normal" pad. However, I think it is a matter of practice, after working on a Duffy for a long long time, I can now do a lot of card manuevers on it that I didn't think were possible before, as well as many techniques are lock solid on regular pads because the regular pads feel "sticky" to me compared to duffy... and I can work on other surfaces much better than I could. Personally I've tried a lot of pads and while I like the hard dill or other cloth/felt/velvet pads a LOT, I find the duffy is a bit more practical... while I've heard they can crease, I've never had a problem with mine and while other pads tend to get wrinkles or get "fuzz", the duffy is always looking brand new and always has an even surface. Plus if it ever gets dirty you can wash it with water and keep on using it, and the rubber backing makes it STICK on whatever surface you put it on. While other's can be a bit nicer for card work or even nicer looking, as far as practicality I LOVE my Duffy's... can always reach into my trunk and know it'll be perfect. So anyway, if you get a duffy and have problems with cards, keep up the practice as you can get a point where it will "click". -daegs ps also remember I'm only refering to a lot of double work that I originally couldn't do on the duffy, I really havent used any mexican turnovers in any of my work so that might be unfixable... |
Michael Berends Loyal user Canada 220 Posts |
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the insight... I'm practicing everything using a Duffy Close-up Pad and it works great. I pulled out a small portable Close-up table that I made for a trade show some years ago and it has high quality black velvet on it. I do find though that it has a grain to it. So the coins slide easier going one way and there's some resistance going the other. Maybe it's just me? Anyone else noticed this? I'll let you know what direction I decide to go with. One more question. What do you find the ideal table dimensions are? It still has to be portable, with a fairly small footprint, but large enough to do Matrix style routines without looking cramped and awkward. Mike
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ShawnB Special user 728 Posts |
Michael..
I found the best thing in the world for table tops... Go to a fabric stor and look for Headliner fabric ( the stuff for car headliners) it works awsome and can be cut to whatever size you want.... It doesn't have tons of squish to it so double the fabric over and it will work great... Best part is it is so cheap.... Look in to it.
Shawn.
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
I have a Duffy pad. I bought it when I was completely ignorant of pads and what to buy and so forth (still am to a degree). I just wanted a pad. Boy did I lucck out. I love the pad. It's fantastic. I mostly use it for practice but it's a great working surface.
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