What was the flashed pass in?

I've never really watched "Mind Freak", I guess I should to see what Criss is like and what kind of style he has.

He was in a bar or pool hall with a girl. The camera was low and to his left and revealed every move he made. Most likely, laymen just saw it as a fancy cut.

Dave your right it probably went by the vast majority of the laity, which was his intent I am sure.

I don't think it was his "intent" just that he probably figured it wasn't worth a reshoot.

Dave I simply meant his audience is the "laity" is all.

Hey Song, what did Andre Kole say about the Walking on Water bit?

Andre Kole wrote a letter to Criss and his team about trade secrets. Criss did not contact him to do the Walking on Water illusion.
Later, after the episode aired, Andre made the comment "What amazing things can be accomplished when you have a pool full of wet, screaming stooges."

The letter is read in the new GoMagicGo Podcast.

That sounds like a classy letter.

Tony

lol

I know a good optometrist.

I'll give you one example (of dozens available throughout the seasons)—In the pool hall, when he sets the envelope down next to the billiard ball resting on the card, the envelope is parallel to the long edge of the table. Then, Criss 'hold-for-edit' Angel asks the girl to come around the table and suddenly the envelope has 'magically' moved its position to a 45 degree angle.

Now, this may or may not have anything to do with the method, but clearly we're not seeing the whole performance. This doesn't mean you couldn't preshow an audience for an effect (if you'd preshow for a live show as well), but once the camera comes on, the viewing audience should see the entire sequence of events until the effect is over.

I completely agree with DannyDoyle. While there are some pretty gullible people out there, a lot of feedback from thinking lay audience on other forums including Digg, Shoutwire, etc have rightfully labelled him as a joke. I feel a bit sorry for people like Luke Jermay and Banachek, who may not be able to escape the association if they don't get out now.

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Most people are criticising criss angel but do any of you have a tv show like him???

I meant camera edits that actually involve covering something from the effect. Not an envelope moving, which had nothing to do with the effect.
The food to roach was obviously not an edit and it did not have to involve stooges. In fact, I may be wrong, but every wave he did over the food, his hands got closer and closer. Also, he was wearing a PK ring. As you can see, he was likely planning for the food to vanish on the third wave, but it took a few more to get it right.
All the stuff he did in these episodes can legitly be done.
Oh, and by the way, instead of sitting back and calling stooge on everything, why don't you try to put your mind to each effect and think of how you could actually do the same trick without a stooge? Stop being lazy and start being creative.

How does this make what Criss does any better or any worse? So what if his critics don't have a TV show? Is that now the only way we judge "good magic"?

Posted: Aug 5, 2006 9:58am
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All the stuff he did in these episodes can legitly be done.
Oh, and by the way, instead of sitting back and calling stooge on everything, why don't you try to put your mind to each effect and think of how you could actually do the same trick without a stooge? Stop being lazy and start being creative.

Define legitly done.

Oh and if you think you can do "all the stuff in this episode without stooges, or camera editing, you simply need to state how. Because your simply wrong and indeed need an optomitrist. Is it lazy to say we can't travel past the speed of light? Do we just need to be creative to find a way.

Once you have the "facts", well accepting them is not lazy. Lazy is accepting what you are TOLD by lets say, Criss and his people on TV.

I will admit that there were a few effects that needed stooges, however, they were really good effects. Stooges are a tool. It's just like a mirror or trapdoor. Anybody can use them in the real world.
Are you trying to say that everything he does is with a stooge/camera trick/ edit? Do you think that would just be easier? There is proof in these episodes in Criss' performance that he actually went out there and did the effects.
I remember in the party episode, he stated that he was taking sleight of hand to local bars and clubs. So, could you possibly be saying that his poorly done coins across was a camera trick?

So how does he accomplish all this stuff without camera tricks and edits?
His team is some of the greatest magicians in the whole entire world. All together, they could come up with some amazing stuff. Why call camera edit on everything when it may just be some new effect? That is why I am telling you all to be creative. Of course, we could all go into a shop and purchase magic, but why don't you actually try to sit down and invent things for yourself using combinations of methods already out there?
Criss and his team are all creative. They think outside of the box. That's why they are on tv and you're not.

I disagree

Who cares if they are on TV or not? Is that the measure of good magic? You still avoid this answer and it is obvious. NO. It is NOT the measure of good magic. Sorry.

No, actually they think inside the box and then there's a camera cut & they're outside ...

To argue they don't use camera cuts and editing, and stooging and outright lies is just not going to hold water. To argue it makes for better magic is debatable. One is a fact, one is a subjective matter.

You can argue that you don't feel they OVERUSE them perhaps. I don't see the position as even true in the slightest, but you can argue it.

I think a better thing to discuss is what I said about defining "stooge" rather than if he uses them.

Here is a hint, "We never met before right?" is usually a stooge. Pretty simple formula really. Now not so much a stooge as an assistant in the audience as I said earlier.