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Christophercarter Regular user 132 Posts |
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On 2006-09-11 04:47, Lee Darrow wrote: Easily the "hippest" or most modern appearing hypnotist I have seen is Dale K. --Chris |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Lee that brings me directly to Paul. Which was my point.
WE do not decide, the public does. I guess until someone like oh I don't know, Jerry Seinfeld declares someone something, we have to wait. Why do you want to have hypnotists put titles on themselvs? Dai remember sir the only story we have is what you write. If it is incomplete, it is hardly my fault.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
To me, the issue is that NO stage hypnotist in Ameria today can hold a candle to Pat Collins as far as public recognition goes.
And to me, THAT'S the bottom line. Pat set the bar. The rest of us have to be able to vault over it and, since her passing several years ago, no one has and, as far as I can see, there isn't even anyone on the horizon as far as stage hypnosis goes. Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Hey Danny...Where are you currently performing? And I'd love to see your web page for your schedule too. I tour/travel the US quite a bit, and I'd love to catch one of your shows. I enjoyed Jim Callihan's show and I'd love to attend one of yours.
Dave
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Slim if nobody noticed, and judging from attenedence nobody did, we finished up in Branson this year, and now work in Cancun Mexico 4 nights a week. As well as with cruise ship companies. After the 22nd of September we will be a lot closer to your neck of the woods, come a few weeks after opening.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
I've been listening to WENDI hypnotize people on the Radio. It seems that she's beaten me to the punch, but I'm not giving up! She doesn't do the "Visual Stage" routine that I'm working on.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Wendi is still focusing on the therapeutic side of the business, which suits me just fine - I don't need the competetion! Not to mention that she's a good friend.
Slim, next time you're up Chicago way, give me a yell and we'll do lunch or something! Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
<BR>"Because NICE Matters!" |
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Nongard1 Special user 664 Posts |
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On 2006-09-11 04:47, Lee Darrow wrote: On the P.R. side of things. But not clinical. Anyone doing past-life regressions will never be taken as a serious clinician -- by licensed clinicians or the mass public-- even if they do good work in other areas. I like Wendi, and think she has great material, but marketing is what she will be known for in the end, not her clinical work. Fair or not, is another debate, but that is the reality. So she will not be the next Milton Erickson, except in California. Agree with you on Penn and Teller, who usually do good shows, but they missed the mark in season 2. Interesting the show featured no licensed and degreed clinicians as experts to debunk...
Dr. Richard Nongard, Professional Hypnosis Training
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leapinglizards Inner circle 1263 Posts |
I don't think the question was who was the next Milton Erickson- That's Stephen Gilligan I would think- or at least he's in the running.
The question was who is the next Ormand McGill- ie- who will be known in both stage hypnosis and "clinical" hypnosis fields. Wendi might fit that bill if she decides to do more teaching at some point. Wendi certainly may be todays Dave Elman, or the next Gil Boyne or some such. Just a thought.
Leaping Lizards!!! Who knew it was possible.
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Nongard, Ormond did both and did past life regressions as well, so Wendi fits the bill prety well. Her P.R. campaign is taking her places no one since Pat Collins has gone - at least in the US. In the UK the perception of Darren Brown might be there, but he doesn't do any change workings at all, so he doesn't fit the bill either.
But I say again - who cares? To me, the person who takes stage hypnosis in a whole NEW direction and makes their mark in the public eye will be the one who really scores the BIG points. Ormond was a wonderful man. A great teacher and one heckuva showman, no question about it. I had the HONOR of closing the NGH show after him (with one other act between us) in 2000 and, afterwards, he was gracious and very enthusiastic about the whole evening - which was amazing for a man of his years. But he was NOT anywhere near cutting edge for today's crowds. Nor, in my professional opinion, are the new crop of R and X-rated hypnotists. They are simply playing up the sensationalism of sex - and some of them doing it with post prom and other high school audiences - which is going to land SOMEBODY in deep trouble, some time soon, I'm willing to bet! No, my feeling is that someone is going to take hypnotic entertainment into a whole new arena and into a whole new direction than it's ever gone. And THAT person is the one we will ALL be chasing. Just like magicians were chasing Doug Henning thirty-five years ago and the way many are chasing Angel and Brown today. Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
<BR>"Because NICE Matters!" |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
It works!!!!! A suggestive routine over the phone is both effective and practical, if not a little bizarre
My next goal is a written script or a flyer similar to the Criss Angel video, only REAL !!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Of course it works, Slim! I've done hypnosis over the phone for years, both for show situations and as a therapist.
But DISH, laddie, DISH! What did you DO? Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
<BR>"Because NICE Matters!" |
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HypnotizeAmerica Veteran user 399 Posts |
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Yeah, I saw that after I posted my comment, but I still want more detail!
;) Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
My years of research into NLP have finally paid off! It's a Messmerization Eclipse. A covering of an old standard with a new closer one. Leaving everyone in the dark. Although not very frequent, very amazing.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Eddini_81976 Inner circle 2183 Posts |
I've read just a few comments and yes it really doesn't matter. The answer to me is VERY EASY !!!
It's TOM SILVER !!! Why? Well he's worked with Ormond, they were great friends and he has lots of videos of Ormond with Ormond. I'm just saying who I think Ormond would choose. Go to youtube, click either Tom Silver, or Ormond McGill. I really REALLY think it's obvious, Ed, (Eddini).
"Treat Others As You'd Want To Be Treated" - Jesus Christ
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