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carldourish New user 88 Posts |
Only brought this gimmick on Wednesday, however used it last night in front of 12 people at the table, only 4-6 feet away. Did the appearing ball, change colour, then disappear.
This is a great gimmick. Carl |
solrak29 Special user NY Metro 936 Posts |
I have the same gimmick, and it's quite useful to me in the appearing and disappearing ball. It is great in convincing the audience that there is
no ball. I have attempted the color change and other methods, but find it very uncomfortable for me to use. Right now, I'm chalking it up to practice, but I have some reservation for it to where I'm thinking I would have been better off with the devise that the gimmick is made out of. Any tips or hints on this? Also, when I am done with it, I get rid of it because keeping your hand in that position is not natural to me. When I saw the creator demonstrate it, I was attracted to the gimmick and thought something was amiss. I am also curious what other people think.
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johnnyimpossible Loyal user Omaha, Ne 244 Posts |
I assume the fs2 is the same as the sanada gimmick; the sanada gimmick is made out of the same material as a TT. If so, just practice with it and soon, it will be all natural. I missed the lecture on the sanada gimmick, but heard that it was impressive to see the lecturer performing with it. I'm sure he did a lot of practicing. Usually things worthwhile take considerable practice.
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
In regards to Solrak's question - yes, I prefer the sanada to the FS/2.
If you get a chance, look at Dan Garret's work with the sanada... Also, get your hands on Scott Guinn's "PB&J" sponge ball routine, or PM me for a specific show of the gimmick which works very well(without exposing Scott's routine). |
solrak29 Special user NY Metro 936 Posts |
That is the name of it...the "sanada". The performer was Jay Scott Berry, where
he called the "sanada" the Vortex. I feel that I would of been better off with just the Vortex instead of FS/2, because when you get to producing two or more things...it gets tight. During Jay's performance of the FS/2, I thought it was kewl, but I believe he "over"-proved the idea, and I felt his hand was kinda awkward. In any case, I bought the thing, but only feel comfortable with the single ball appearing and disappearing, which there is some nice handling with it that convinced me to get it in the first place.
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solrak29 Special user NY Metro 936 Posts |
Just curious, has anyone used this for walk around or table routines? Any tips
on this? I generally use this as a stand up routine, and after I clean up, I get close with my normal sponge routine....
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Flying Magus Loyal user 286 Posts |
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On 2006-09-25 22:03, solrak29 wrote: Just to clarify the names here. The Sanada gimmick, or finger S***l, is the basis for two gimmicks designed and sold by JSB. The main problem with the Sanada gimmick is that it cannot be preset and then stolen the way a TT can. Jay came up with two designs to counter this. The first is the Cloaking Device. A bit like a Sanada with a pocket. Very useful and great for the bill switch because you don't need to fold the thing so many times. The second is the FS/2. Guess what the FS stands for. JSB originally called this the Sanada 2000 which, let's face it, is a bit of a cheesey name. This is different to both the Sanada and the Cloaking Device in the it allows for two separate 'storage spaces'. Useful for color changes etc. The Vortex is not a gimmick at all, but the name of a handling position for any of the three gimmicks. Hence it is the Vortex Position. It is essentially an adaptation of the Ramsey Subtlety. You can also produce stuff from this position for a weird effect. Hope this either clarifies things for makes you want to explore the 3 gimmicks some more.
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johnnyimpossible Loyal user Omaha, Ne 244 Posts |
Thanks for the clarification. I was pretty sure I new what was being discussed. I think these gimmicks are great. Just be careful to not overuse them or over prove with them.
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solrak29 Special user NY Metro 936 Posts |
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On 2006-10-02 08:30, Flying Magus wrote: Thanks for jogging my memory. You kinda open up my mind a bit mentioning the "Bill Switch". I just kept focusing on silks and balls.
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Zazz Veteran user California 315 Posts |
Are the Sanada and Cloaking Device a one size fits all? I haven't seen a size selection for these devices.
Can they be trimmed down to fit smaller hands? Does it matter where I buy one as far as the quality of color and material it is made out of is concerned? Thanks Dan |
DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
Bob Sheets makes great use of the Sanada Gimmick on his "Skullcracker" DVD (Bill Switch)
He likes to take two Sanadas and glue them together to strengthen the gimmick, which he says tends to split (I am new to the gimmick so I can't speak to this one way or the other)
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Danny Diamond Inner circle Connecticut 1400 Posts |
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On 2007-04-20 09:27, DStachowiak wrote: Not a bad idea - I have a Sanada gimmick sitting on my shelf in retirement, because of a split developing in it.
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Mr. Ree Elite user Sedona AZ 414 Posts |
FS/2 Gimmick:
It would be good to hear from someone that uses this on a regular basis. How long did the gimmick last for you? Where the deep grooves are, mine split on only the second use. There’s lots of tape on mine to keep long seams from splitting. (Came that way.) I like the idea. But it doesn't seem these gimmicks will last that long. Especially with the deep grooves and the material that they are made out of. Maybe just this one gimmick.
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