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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Percy Press... that was the name I was trying to remember. I watched him work and had a loooooooooooooong chat with him. What a great performer. Sadly the tape recorder I had running during out interview was bogus and it turned out to be BLANK... :tears:
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2006-11-10 00:21, Christopher Moro wrote: No, I feel my self esteem is low enough as it is, thank you!
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Darrin Cook Special user 621 Posts |
Michael, this is a brilliant observation of yours:
"It is important to know that laymen don't have to know all the details of a method, they just have to think they are on to something. Magicians may know 90% of a method, and feel as if the unknown 10% is preventing them from knowing the secret. Laymen can understand 10% of the method and they are satisfied that they have discovered the secret. The other 90% is regarded as unimportant details to them. This does not even allow for the fact that the 10% they have in mind may not even be correct. All they have to do is believe it is." |
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Frank Tougas Inner circle Minneapolis, MN 1712 Posts |
Quote: Yes it is true Al is not much for writing patter although he can do a spendid job if pressed into service. However I feel that he goes to so much trouble working out all the intricate details to make things look like real magic, asking hi to do this patterwise for you is just plain lazy. You need to inject yourself into a routine, patter has always been my method. I do a lot of Al's stuff, my patter is enormously different I am sure he would agree.
On 2006-10-31 18:24, CJRichard wrote: Of copurse if you really need him to write you patter, maybe you could go a step farther and pay himn to actually perform the trick for you. Pricey but what the heck! (The foregoing was written with tongue planted firmly in cheek - for those who are overly sensitive). Frank Tougas
Frank Tougas The Twin Cities Most "Kid Experienced" Children's Performer :"Creating Positive Memories...One Smile at a Time"
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sethb Inner circle The Jersey Shore 2719 Posts |
Very, very clever -- lots of good original thinking here.
Just when I thought there was nothing else that could be done with the Cups & Balls, along he comes some very interesting moves and ideas. My hat is off to Mr. Schneider! SETH
"Watch the Professor!!" -- Al Flosso (1895-1976)
"The better you are, the closer they watch" -- Darwin Ortiz, STRONG MAGIC |
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ttorres Special user Rock Hill, SC 513 Posts |
Good stuff, thanks for sharing the video.
...the magic that creates Memories!
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Richard Evans Inner circle 1379 Posts |
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On 2006-11-10 21:03, Pete Biro wrote: Martin Breese sells a great audio CD of an interview with Percy Press. It's a fantastic insight into the work of an old-time street performer.
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three. Elayne Boosler
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
There is no load.
Really, well I guess there is a re-loading.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Do you actually have the routine?
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
Who me?
No, I am merely speculating.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
I think there are two "loads" talked about here. One is the "act of loading" and the other is the "load ball" itself.
No trees were killed in the making of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2007-03-01 11:33, gdw wrote: Then you really need to watch the routine carefully. I have it. I know when everything happens in that routine, and you can't see what I would call "the load ballet" that goes on during the routine. It's done so smoothly and naturally that you can't see it.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Magic1 Elite user Los Angeles 408 Posts |
I like his classic cups routine. It's a fooler! Notice how he keeps bringing his right hand to rest in the exact same place (even when there's nothing there happening there at all) It perfectly conditions us to stop watching the hand so carefully. Now there's a smart magician!
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
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On 2007-05-16 08:29, Magic1 wrote: He has been teaching that rest position for some time. He goes over it (and much more) on his three DVD set. That set of DVD's also has his "Schneider Standard" cups and balls routine on it. I do not mean his version of the "classic cups and balls) that he has on his site. His "standard" routine is a sit-down routine that I have been doing for some time and I love it. No wand flourishes and spins no stacked cup penetrations, just wonderful cups and balls. Spectators are left with the feeling that you have not just "gone so fast" that they missed something. As a performer, it is a very gratifying routine to do. Even with my bad eyesight, I can see the dropped jaws. In case there is some confusion, there have been three routines by Al that have been discussed here on this thread: >"LA Street Cups" (single load and found on his site.) >"Classic cups and balls" (found on his site.) >"Standard Schneider" cups and balls (found on his DVD set. Bob |
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Glenn Godsey Special user 737 Posts |
I have had a couple of sessions with Al and he taught me his current sit-down cups routine and a couple of his Coins Across routines, Coins through the silk, and more.
One thing I would like to point out is that Al has VERY large hands. It is no problem for him to palm/hold a 2" ball during natural table movements. He uses the large 2" knit load balls by Morrissey. Many of us would need smaller balls (no pun intended) to pull this off. Another thing, primarily concerning coins, is that Schneider has the BEST classic palm I have ever seen in my decades in magic. I used to follow Al Goshman around and I thought he had the best classic palm ever...Al Schneider's is better. There is not even the slightest tell or hint of tension up close to those who know what to look for. Al's relaxed empty hand looks and moves exactly the same as Al's hand palming a coin. Another very interesting thing about Schneider is the rapid timing of his critical movements. Hold up a coin at eye level at your computer and you are not performing...you are alone. Now reach up with your right hand and take the coin. You move rapidly without hesitation. That's the way Al does a transfer...whereas most of us think we need to move slowly to make things clear. Al moves the way he would move if he were alone. He is a naturally relaxed and slow moving man, but his puts and takes are unhesitating. This creates a very convincing illusion. Al reminds me, in some ways, of Jerry Andrus. Both of them are basically loners who didn't hang around the other magicians learning the latest moves. So, they both created their own methods based on observation of human movement combined with the minds of inventors. As much as I thought I knew everything about the cups and balls, Al fooled me over and over while I sat at the table two feet away from him. He is a magician. Compare him to the Angel/Blaine flavor-of-the-month DVDs that keep popping up. Yes. I have sat at the table with Vernon, Jennings, Ackerman, Harris, Skinner, and many others. Al fooled me more than any of them. Best regards, Glenn Godsey |
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Bob Johnston Inner circle Philadelphia, PA 1251 Posts |
Glenn is right about Al's hands. He has the longest fingers of any magician I have ever seen and he puts them to very good use.
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Chris Becker Veteran user New York, NY 371 Posts |
That's pretty awesome. Very, very deceptive.
But I've said it before and say it again: Three cup routines give me a headache. He lost me after 20 seconds. It's just too confusing. I don't understand more than two cups. Even two cups are confusing. But if I concentrate, I can follow.
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TuKanz New user Kentucky 51 Posts |
This one makes you go WOW!!! Very smooth
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dxsare Veteran user 361 Posts |
Great routine. I am a big fan of Al Schneider. When I was first starting out, his Technique series were the first videos I got, and he has always had a big impact on my magic. His theory on magic was far more important that the routines he teaches on the DVD's, but then you get all those killer routines. Really a must buy for really any magician. Highly recommended for the beginner. Before I knew about the LA Cups, I actually took advantage of his loading during my opening sequence of my Cocktail Cups and Balls routine to show the martini shaker empty. (Of course I'm sure Al has been working on this idea much before me!)
Stevie D
-Stevie D
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closeupcardician Special user Justin Teeman Moore, OK 602 Posts |
Smooth and clever with great attention to detail. Schnider is terrific. Makes me want to break out the cups.
"Magic as art cannot live without love. Love of some kind. There are novels without love, other arts without love. But there can be no magic without love." - Rodney Reyes
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