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stuartmagic Loyal user Derby England (UK) 240 Posts |
Hi There,
I know that there has been a large amount of info on here that has been talked about concerning the use of gloves and card manipulations but what do you use to get a better grip on the cards with the gloves? . I don't want to keep adding saliva to the finger tips which is favoured by many as I use fanning powder on the cards and personally I don't want to keep tasting this every time. I have tried water which works ok for a bit but this simply gets on the cards which become tacky preventing them from fanning easily and the powder comes off even with just dampening the finger tips. So my question is do any of you "spray" the fingers with anything or what would you recommend etc ? Many Thanks, Stuart, Derby (UK)
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Daveandrews Special user London, UK 723 Posts |
Stuart, I think you'll find that spittle works the best when using gloves - unfortunate, I know - but there really is no substitute that works as well as the 'home grown' stuff.
Best wishes, Dave
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
Decades ago when I used to do some manipulation with gloves, I always used either an unlined black leather gloves or a pair of silk lined white kid leather formal gloves. A well made pair acted as a second skin and eliminated the need to wet the fingers.
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Daveandrews Special user London, UK 723 Posts |
Levent, I agree, that is the only other way to go.
Best, Dave
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stuartmagic Loyal user Derby England (UK) 240 Posts |
Thankyou for your comments Dave & Levent. I will look into other types of gloves and see what I find.
Stuart.
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Paul Jester Special user UK 759 Posts |
The lack of grip make split fans a dream, but I can't produce a single for the life of me! Love gloves...
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3042 Posts |
Back when I was doing my cards-and-doves act I tried about a dozen different types of white gloves. Some were too slippery, some were too thin, and so forth. I ended up using heavy cotton "parade gloves" which I found at a surplus store. These had the snap at the wrist and were just perfect for my hands (which are probably "average" size) and my grip, and I didn't need to moisten them at all.
The other thing I found was that too much fanning powder made the cards unmanageable. After trying several different types of cards, ways of applying the powder, and amounts of powder, I ended up using a new Bicycle poker deck every few shows, without the powder. For me, these had just the right slipperiness right out of the box and I was able to get huge fans as well as singles.
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stuartmagic Loyal user Derby England (UK) 240 Posts |
Paul, What type of gloves do you use and where is it best in the UK to obtain them ?
Stuart.
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Angelo Carbone V.I.P. 1475 Posts |
Try larger department stores which will have a larger selection of gloves than independent store (eg Selfridges, John Lewis, Harrods etc).
You may also possible want to consider a larger size in women's gloves because they are softer and thinner than men's which may help with the tactile feel and grip of the cards. Unlined would be better. If they are too long you could always try shortening them at the wrist I guess.
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
I purchased my white gloves from the formal wear department at Saks Fifth Avenue in Manhattan about 25 years ago. At that time they cost $65 US dollars. At about the same time I purchased a pair of black unlined leather gloves from a Chinese street vendor for about $6 US dollars. To be honest I liked to use the inexpensive black gloves more than the expensive white pair. This is probably because that silk lining of the white gloves made the material thicker.
I would guess that a white pair of leather gloves could be found in London at a formal shop that sells top hats and I have no doubt that they would cost a lot more than $65 US dollars. By the way, I am fairly certain that Cardini used a pair of Chamois Leather gloves in his act. If such a pair could be found, it might make the card manipulation a bit easier. One more thing, I have found that it helps if the gloves are NOT to loose. A tight pair will usually stretch to fit and it will act as a second skin. Levent
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
I found a website that explains how to make your own chamois gloves.
http://vintagesewing.info/1950s/50-hmg/hmg-03.html Perhaps this might be helpful if you can't find a source for the gloves. Levent
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Angelo Carbone V.I.P. 1475 Posts |
I am guessing also black would make a change from the generic white glove associated with magic and will also make the white playing cards stand out better against your hand. Also, the boarders of the back design could be black to help blend in.
I also feel the perception of manipulating cards wearing gloves is that being more difficult than in bare hands alone. A plus in terms of showing skill no doubt.
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Paul Jester Special user UK 759 Posts |
I bought mine from Moss Bros Covent Garden. They work pretty well (apart from singles!) and they look smart. Having said they don't work for singles, I do use the Garcia Eclipse production with them. If you don't want to splash out the £25 - £30 I think they cost, then pop into Boots and get the plain cotton gloves they sell; they're fine if you're just experimenting with the idea of using gloves.
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