Does anyone have this? It looks pretty cool!- http://www.magicjax.com/bottle.html

Just bought it. I'll have to let you know. Anything from Jax is worth ten bucks.

John

Thanks John.

I'm not going to push my product or anything. I'll let others say what they think.

I will tell you this though. Most of the people who pick this up tell me they mostly like to just put it on a shelf as an impossible object such as a ship in a bottle. A sort of conversation piece. It can be a pretty strong effect when presented right though.

For those who have it let me share how I've been presenting it lately and this make the handling much easier. I've been presenting it as a bottle through table. The plot is that I'm going to hold one bottle under the table and one above under a napkin or paper bag. I tell them that I'm going to try and make them switch places. But the above bottle vanishes and appears inside the other bottle.

Ron Jaxon

Its a very interesting and unique application, although I'm still developing my own routine. In the bar setting it's very appropriate.

Ron, how examinable is it once your done?

Unfortunately it's not really examinable after the bottle goes in the bottle. However there are some subtle convincers that everything is real. They hear the bottle rattling in the other bottle and you can hold it an inch from their eyes and they won't see anything other then a bottle in a bottle. There are no extra holes in the other bottle of anything for them to find.

Having said all that. I've had people come over to my house. Pick it up off the shelf for a better look. Then ask, "How the heck did you get that in there". IF they looked at it long enough they would figure it out. But that tells me that it could pass a casual examination. But I wouldn't recommend it.

I would love to find a way to make one that is examinable. In fact one guy told me he could make one for me but he hasn't made it yet. If he can do it I'd perform it like in this E-book then switch later and let them examine or (in real important shows) let them keep it.

Ron Jaxon

It's a riot. Just to pay the 10 bucks to see how this is accomplished is worth it. Ron, you are the Einstein of magic!

I love this idea. You can't hand it out. I will be performing this onstage.

I would bring out the real bottles in the beginning of the show, drink from them. Then, bring them out later for the effect.

John

This is a good !DEA. Thanks for sharing!

Thank you Ron and everyone else for the help!

Sorry so I understand it can't be performed close-up? Ah what a pity :-(

Rebecca

It can be performed close up. I perform it in the bar from time to time.

Ron Jaxon

Thanks Ron, but I mean, if you can't hand them out you can't perform the trick in real life close up - I mean, people would ask to see the bottle at the end of course?

Bye

Rebecca

You've just got to manage those folks Rebecca. There are plenty of close-up tricks where you can't hand things out. That isn't the definition of close-up.

Audience and prop management is the key. Have fun.

If you don't want to hand things out just adjust the routine so that it ends when the "dirty" stuff is out of sight/reach.

Or just say, "Sorry, we've got to move on."

Or, "Hey, when you are the magician you can let everyone's grubby paws get all over your stuff."

Or, "Sorry, it's an antique." or something like that.

John

I'm not saying this is a bad effect. I've bought a few of Jaxon's items and always found them to be well worth the money.

However, Rebecca is right. If you do this in a close-up situation and the audience can't examine the bottle in bottle at the end, they may see it as "clever" but I doubt they'll see it as "magical." To imply that the audience will be satisfied if you just usher them on to the next effect is, at least in my experience, not the case. If they're truly amazed by the effect they really want to have that reinforced by being able to examine the impossible object.

Again, I'm not complaining. For 10 dollars you're not going to get a fully examinable "bottle into bottle" effect, of course.

John has the right idea. It all depends on how you present it. A good way to present this is to let the spectators notice the bottle in the bottle. For example the bottle has vanished. You look around as if you don't know where it went. All the while you are holding the larger bottle in your hand out in the open. Sometime they don't even notice it's in there right away. BUt once they do they point it out to you. Act amazed yourself.

Here's another possible option but I admit I've never done this myself. After the effect is over. Put the bottle (containing a bottle) in a bag. Pull out a hammer and break the outer bottle. Then dump the content out and they'll find a broken bottle and a smaller unbroken "real" bottle. I would accomplish this with a bag switch as I obtain my hammer from my case. Like I said, I've never done this but I will sometime. If anyone else does please let us know how it went. I'll do the same.

I would love to have a real bottle inside a real bottle that could be given away. I agree that this would be very cool.

The basic point I'd like to make is that even tricks that have limitations can be worked out. Even for close up.

Ron Jaxon