|
|
Go to page [Previous] 1~2 | ||||||||||
Marcus Taylor New user 70 Posts |
Just do the card manips that you want to. Don't limit yourself. Choose what you want and then deal with the routining side. Let your imagination rule.
|
|||||||||
-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
I think there has to be a limit somewhere - but the key to a successful routine is variation. You have to have the magic constantly changing so the audience doesn't expect what comes next - take Tony Clark's act for example!
Kevin |
|||||||||
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
It is not only so the audience does not know what to expect, it is more so that the audience does not get so bored with various repetition that most manipulative acts have.
Use transitions and make the act flow. Transform the card into a silk and go into another routine before going back into the cards. Make it visually interesting to your audience and give them a reason to be drawn in to your performance.
Kyle Peron
http://www.kylekellymagic.com Entertainers Product Site http://kpmagicproducts.com Join Our Facebook Fan Page at http://facebook.com/perondesign |
|||||||||
maylor Loyal user england 231 Posts |
Absolutely!
But in making it varied - make sure it doesn't become clumsy. As Magic4u02 says - make it FLOW!! |
|||||||||
-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
You hit the nail on the head again, Kyle!
(As usual ) Don't think you have to keep the cards to one part of the act - and the fire (or whatever you decide to use) in another part. Keep them mixing throughout - and it will be a delight for the audience to witness. I have always liked fire because the spectators know you couldn't have a lit torch up your sleeve or anything of the sort. There are very few 'fire acts' around nowadays, with the exception of Colin Rose. It would be great to see a few more. Kevin |
|||||||||
zombieboy Special user Connecticut, USA 889 Posts |
I agree. It is also intersting to have a running theme, like Salvano with his glasses of liquid. He does all these different types of effects, but at the end of each one, he produces a glass of liquid. Very diverse, but sticks to a theme. Hands down the best manip act I have ever seen.
|
|||||||||
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Thanks all. I do appreciate your nice comments.You do indeed have to make it flow and not become clumsy. In a way I always cnsider my acts to be magical poetry. In a way I know this sounds stupid, but it does have a purpose.
As in poetry, an act should have a beat and a movement to it. It should flow nicely and hit creshendos or peaks of climatic action. You really must work at creating this flowing movement in the act because too much of the same repetitive moiton gets boring very fast to your audience. I think you can create wonder and a sense of fun ion any manipulative act by changing it aorund a bit. I call it putting together sequences and then transistioning from those sequences. Each sequence to last no more then a minute in length. You can have your entire act be mainly cards or even billard balls, but transistion theeffects around to make it appear vastly different to the audience. For example if you were doing a ball act, you could start with some simple 1 ball vanishes and productions but then maybe you toss the ball into the air and when it hits your hand it turns into that color silk. So we have a transformation happening. Then maybe you do a knots off silk but when the knot flys off it changes back into the ball. This is just an idea off the top of my head, but you can already see how a transition can make an act much more visually pleasing. Always strive to think outside of the box. I may post more on this a little later. I am working on a really neat billard ball concept for an act I am doing and the ideas are kind of interesting and different. I may share them with the group once I work a little more with it.
Kyle Peron
http://www.kylekellymagic.com Entertainers Product Site http://kpmagicproducts.com Join Our Facebook Fan Page at http://facebook.com/perondesign |
|||||||||
DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
Wow, I really like the idea of sliding the knots of the silk and having them turn into a ball... if only I was a billiard ball manipulator...
|
|||||||||
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
DJ. I always work on exciting transitions that are different than what people would expect. I like to take a standard effect and always ask myself.. what if... and figure out a way how it could be changed to appear as a different effect all together.
I am currently brainstorming what I call unique transition moves. One of the ideas I have is a visual transformation of a ball tossed into the air and instantly turning into that colored silk when it hits the palm of the hand. It is a very stunning effect and works well because the audience is not expecting anything to happen. I am also working on color change moves that are unique. The idea came to me when I saw Shimada use multiple shells in his lecture. I asked myself why does a shell have to be the same color as the ball? If it doesn't match in color, this opens you up to a TON of different moves and color changes that can happen instantly and very easily. I now perform a color change using this method, in which it literally looks like the ball changes color with just me snapping a silk at it. The ball is in clear view the entire time. Well enough of me babbling here. My point is that you really should open yourself up to experimenting. Once you have seen the tapes and the videos and learned the moves, it is time to put all of that way and really brainstorm. Let your mind go wild and try things.
Kyle Peron
http://www.kylekellymagic.com Entertainers Product Site http://kpmagicproducts.com Join Our Facebook Fan Page at http://facebook.com/perondesign |
|||||||||
Vibono Magic Special user Växjö,Sweden 647 Posts |
Vienna magic sells an item called hot deck. It is just what it sound like: show a deck of cards and maybe do a fan or open the deck like a book and flames comes out of the deck. Close the deck and the flames disappear. You can separate the deck into two burning fans if you want.
Vibono Mirage
Magic entertainer and Balloon artist |
|||||||||
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Vibono:
That is an interesing effect and I think I have see that before. The only thing you have to worry about is the new fire codes that are in place in a lot of the places you may want to perform in these days.
Kyle Peron
http://www.kylekellymagic.com Entertainers Product Site http://kpmagicproducts.com Join Our Facebook Fan Page at http://facebook.com/perondesign |
|||||||||
Vibono Magic Special user Växjö,Sweden 647 Posts |
So true but so far have I been able to perform with fire here in Sweden without any problems as long as I inform the man in charge of these question in advance to my performance.
Vibono Mirage
Magic entertainer and Balloon artist |
|||||||||
-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
If they realise you are a trained professional and have been working with fire for some time (and also mention you have Public Liability Insurance) then getting gigs shouldn't be too hard...
Should it? |
|||||||||
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Kevin:
You would think that is all there is to it, however, I have learned there is a lot more to it then that. Some places will not allow you to perform unless you have a licensed pyro-technicians license from the state. Even others have just used a rule saying no fire allowed at all in the theater or performing area. The figure by not allowing it, there is no liability for them. The best bet is to call the places up ahead of time and find out what their rules and limitations are regarding the use of fire in their facilities. This will save you a lot of headache in the long run.
Kyle Peron
http://www.kylekellymagic.com Entertainers Product Site http://kpmagicproducts.com Join Our Facebook Fan Page at http://facebook.com/perondesign |
|||||||||
-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
Interesting, Kyle!
You're right about phoning in advance to avoid any hiccups. However, I see Peter Marvey's new illusion show is filled with fire illusions, huge pieces too, not just torches. I wonder why he is allowed to perform with them... Kevin |
|||||||||
magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
He probably is performing at larger venues and has a pyro tecnicians license or someone on staff that has it and can handle the logistics. He probably also has a manager who can call ahead to establish the right permits and secure things way ahead of the booking. I am sure he just doesn't show up and perform without having all of that worked out a long time in advance.
I know some of the SAM national stage shows were not allowed or permitted to use fire in some of the places thay have held the convention at. Each fire marshal and fire inspector has there own codes and can shut an act down in a heart beat if they want to.
Kyle Peron
http://www.kylekellymagic.com Entertainers Product Site http://kpmagicproducts.com Join Our Facebook Fan Page at http://facebook.com/perondesign |
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Finger/stage manipulation » » Fire/Card manip act... (0 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page [Previous] 1~2 |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.04 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |