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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
I'll try to be cryptic, but I doubt it'll work.
I know now there are internal systems, and totally different methods, but traditionally these items have had an external design. I guess there must be a way to hand the bottle out to an astounded audience, but won't they be just as surprised by the strange new appearance their coin has acquired? Is the answer a dark bottle? Any advice would be appreciated. |
Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
Don't hand the bottle out.
Shake it, twirl it, show it and dump out the coin. Give them the coin(?) and lay the bottle down. |
caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
That's the system, okay, many thanks!
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Older books describe using silver or copper dust in put in a paste and used to cover over the place where a gap might draw attention.
It really does pay to study those old books. See http://www.lybrary.com ;)
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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DerekMerdinyan Inner circle 1030 Posts |
I recall someone shoving puddy into the external figure and coloring it with a silver or black sharpie.
You only really need to do that if the glass you use is clear. If you use a green bottle, you should be fine if you do what Jaz said. Derek Merdinyan |
caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
I haven't tried it yet, but I appreciate all the good advice.
If I fill the groove in with something that hardens, replacing the band might become a problem, I fear. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Rubber cement prys easily
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Douglas.M Elite user 465 Posts |
Why run if you're not being chased? Unless you give spectators reason to focus on the edge of the coin, you probably don't need to stuff it with anything. I have never had a spectator question the coin or become suddenly concerned with the coin's edge.
A spectator has handed you a coin that they know to be ungaffed. You can even hand it to someone else to "check out". Why would they suddenly suspect their own coin? The special coin is only in play for a limited amount of time. It is in motion and/or covered by glass that adds a certain amount of distortion. Colored glass gives even more cover. You can actually let them look very closely. Just do the effect with confidence. If you believe the coin is normal, so will everyone else. At the end, when you switch out the gaff, they can handle the coin and scratch their heads over the weird miracle they witnessed. Check out David Roth's performance if you want to see a meat and potatos version. Douglas M. |
joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
Or Johnny Thompson, on his video set...Nice....
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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CasualSoul Special user Edmonton, Canada 542 Posts |
Quote:
On 2006-12-06 20:37, caubeck wrote: Plasticine/modelling clay works great.
"Open their mind by performing the impossible"
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e-man Special user HILTON HEAD,SC 880 Posts |
Tango sells seamless ones.Clear bottle no problem.
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
I have always just kept the bottle moving, when I do this I am usually showing a group of people, I keep the bottle moving and rattle the coin around so they canhear it banging around, as if to prove it's really inside the bottle. I don't hand it around for inspection, because I have the real half in my hand under the bottle, hidden by the label, and I don't waste a lot of time before I go to the removal of the coin, catching the fake and letting the real one drop on the table. I don't like the idea of filling the groove with anything, because I'd be afraid of oil from plasticine, or solvents from rubber cement, or whatever, weakening the band.
Woke up.
Fell out of bed. Dragged a comb across m' head. |
Mysterioii Regular user 123 Posts |
How 'bout soft wax and something like powdered graphite from a pencil? I've got some very soft wax meant to be used to fit candles into candleholders that are too large for them... it's softer than the "magician's wax" I have so you should be able to work it into (and out of) the groove easily...
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts |
Keep in mind that it's a BORROWED QUARTER...
Steve |
DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
I still think it's a case of running when nobody's chasing you, they never get to see the coin close up and at rest. you do the penetration, they see it rattling around inside, and it's switched back in extracting it.
Woke up.
Fell out of bed. Dragged a comb across m' head. |
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