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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Couple of questions:
1) I have been thinking of purchasing a set of cups in nickel chrome. I have noted some info about it, but am curious about long-term durability. *When applied properly*, coupled with daily use using a routine where the cup-thru-cup move and light wand tapping are used, it is reasonable to expect the chrome to hold up permanently? If a chrome cup gets a small dent, does this compromise the finish? 2) Curious about the sound of different metals used for cups. I love the way many cups sound when you stack them or do the cup-thru-cup move. Let's say you have 4 sets of cups, identical in every way except each set is a different metal. Copper, Brass, Church Bronze and Silver. Do different metals sound different enough for one to actually be able to notice and appreciate the difference? For example, I love the way the Johnson Brass cups sound. Do the copper Johnsons sound any different? Thanks, Mark
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
1) If the surfaces are treated properly, the chrome will adhere to the metal. Copper or bronze usually provides the best surface for nickel, chrome or gold plating. Generally, a den't wont cause you to lose the finish. However if the base metal is not thoroughly cleaned and de-greased, the plating will not stay on.
2) The copper and brass Johnson cups sound quite similar. When placed mouth upwards on a table and struck with a fingernail, the brass Johnson cups I have ring with a C#. The Copper ones are about 1/8 of a tone higher. Chrome plated steel is an excellent cup metal for tone. The original Bells of St. Mary's were chrome plated steel.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
Thank you, Bill.
My Johnson set has 2 cups that are right about the same pitch, and one that is about a whole step lower. "C Major, C Major and ..... c minor".
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Ron Giesecke Special user Redding, Ca. 947 Posts |
That would actually be C, C and then B Flat. Majors and minors don't enter into single tones.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
I know, Ron. Actually, that was a bit of patter. Bringing a slight bit of humor to the unanticipated change. The difference in the tones is just out of key enough to sound a bit "off". It works well, strangely enough - as long as I don't try to make more of the humor than is actually there!
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Maybe you need to send them back to Johnson to have them tuned.
Actually, you could tune them to different notes, but it would be risky.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Palmer wins another "best reply" award.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
My Phoenix Cups are tuned to the first 3 notes of a major scale (maybe someday I'll take them to my piano and actually see what notes they are). I enjoy using my wand to play it backwards: "Three Blind Mice". Lots of fun possibilities.
No tuning necessary, they just came that way. :^)
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The best sounding cups I have ever heard were a set of van Dokkum brass jumbo cups. They sound like a big bell. Paul Gertner has them.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Ron Giesecke Special user Redding, Ca. 947 Posts |
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On 2007-01-05 16:19, Chessmann wrote: I can see where it would be funny, if delivered the right way |
cfrye Special user Portland, Oregon, USA 940 Posts |
I've found that my Animal cups' curvature and changing metal thickness lets me produce different tones based on where I hit the cup. I don't have a good ear for music, so I can't tell you the exact notes.
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Ron Giesecke Special user Redding, Ca. 947 Posts |
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On 2007-01-06 13:01, Bill Palmer wrote: When did Paul Gertner eschew his PF cups for his routine? |
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