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GG New user UK 86 Posts |
Has anybody ever tried David Roths coin through table, The one that he uses a folder, And have you tried it with a flipper,just wondering, I can't see any real problems, but haven't tried this yet,but I'm guessing this could be done, and would be a clean version in a close, close-up setting, Restraunts e.t.c. anybody any ideas.
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eddieloughran Special user 942 Posts |
Yes ! I've used it.
And as a coins across. The trouble is that there are so many versions of these tricks; and this is not the best version ! Its a bit angley, and the displays are strange. All that said, I have used it and it works. |
Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
I use David Roth's coin through table using a shot glass. It is quite simple to learn and there are no real angle problems, but you must be seated and it uses a shell.
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
I prefer to do an ungimmicked coins thru table, my current version is a hybrid between Dai Vernon's Kangaroo Coins and Goshman's Coins thru Table, with other ideas stolen from here and there.
I love the shell version too, with the glass, but haven't done it in a while. I think the idea of the visible vanish under glass originated with Milt Kort, but I may be mistaken. Thanks for reminding me about it, I may polish that routine up and start doing it again.
Woke up.
Fell out of bed. Dragged a comb across m' head. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2007-02-12 04:13, GG wrote: Why haven't you tried it? Nobody's going to bite. After David tipped his handling in a lecture (i was away so got it from the book) it was a no-brainer to try it out. However, the issue using a ~] is the setup actions which are so much easier with a ~. Saves the fuss of sticky on the gaff too. In general, using the ~] for tricks where coins are held at the fingertips in a fanned display was pretty well explored by 1980 and the issue of a fast and reliable open for the gaff was the stumbling block. Look at the Double Deception (Johnson seems to be making them too) from Robert Swadling for some really clever ideas on how to use that gaff. :)
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
You really want to learn coins thru table... study the books of Slydini.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Sasco magic sells a modified flipper half which I designed specifically for the coins thru table. about ten years ago.
KOTAH |
snushy Veteran user 338 Posts |
I second that Pete Biro!!
I learned Slydini's Coins through the table some 30 years ago, and I've been doing my version of it ever since. Guaranteed show-stopper every time. Learn from the Master... Larry Zaslow
YOU KNOW WHY YOU DON'T SEE? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WATCH! - SLYDINI
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
Then again, if there's only one good version of every trick, and we all decide to do everything the same way, then theres no need for there to be more than one magician.
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David Bond Regular user Maple Valley, WA 107 Posts |
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On 2007-02-14 11:45, DStachowiak wrote: Not true! There are enough different magic tricks to support dozens of magicians |
Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
Seems to me any version of coins through table can be a good version if done flawlessly and with an excellent presentation. I am not knocking any particular version, but I do think you should be open minded on the subject. If you are open minded about it, what you thought was excellent yesterday, could almost be as good as the new found method today.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
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On 2007-02-14 13:29, David Bond wrote: LOL
Woke up.
Fell out of bed. Dragged a comb across m' head. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
I was so unhappy with what I found at the time (1978) that I worked out my own.
You can find MOST OF that handling in Harry Lorayne's magazine Apocalypse under "Fourth dimensional Trip" page 777.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2007-02-14 09:04, snushy wrote: True enough. But I'd have to put Mr. Roth in the "Master Class" as well. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
travisb Special user Vancouver, BC 546 Posts |
I only own a cheap flipper, so can't comment on what would happen with a quality one, but my cheap one doesn't sound good when dropped on a table. The gaff from the Roth version sounds better when dropped. Still, even though people seem to like it and are extremely baffled, I never really worked on it because it just seems a bit too weird in the handling, and of course because the last coins aren't as visual. And because the logic of one coin falling and the rest not didn't appeal to me. Perhaps a routine that felt more like a transposition, with three in one hand and two in the other...
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snushy Veteran user 338 Posts |
No question Roth is in the Master Class. I believe him to be THE master. He'd also be the first to admit to the heavy influence Slydini had on much of his work.
Larry
YOU KNOW WHY YOU DON'T SEE? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WATCH! - SLYDINI
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