Although this happened few years ago, the bitterness still hits me, and I would like to speak about it so no other member does the same mistake. 4 years ago I purchased a vanishing dove cage from Klamm magic. It was the flip flap type. It was posted in the linking ring and appeared beautiful in the ad, but when I received it, it was the greatest disappointment.

It was very dangerous for the dove and it couldn’t take more than one dove. It didn’t work and it was very cheaply made. I paid 500 $for this crud and an additional $250 for transport, since I live in the Middle East. I didn’t think it was worth it to send back. Anyone else have the same experience? Just keep away from the Klamm vanishing dove cage. I’ll never ever do business with these guys again.

I am so sorry to hear about your experience. That was a lot of money to lose on a lousy prop. The Magic Café is an excellent place to find out if a prop is good or junk. You can also do a "search" with the name of the prop to see if others have commented on it.

There are dove cage vanishes by Proline and Abbotts, but I believe the absolute best dove cage vanish you can buy is the Nielson Vanish. It is expensive, but so totally worth it. It is safe and totally silent. Here is a link that discusses it: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=4040740

Good having you here at The Café!

VERY HELPFUL! Thank you very much, Autumn Morning Star.

So glad I could help out. Enjoy!