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stolz New user Sheffield 8 Posts |
What defines a "stand up" effect or routine ? If asked to perform a 'stand up' routine, what would you consider you must include ? Of course, many effects can be done close up as well as to larger audiences, depending on the approach. So is it visibility, size of prop, audience participation, sound (or lack of it) ?
What do you think ? What type of effects suit stand up ? Stolz
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F-Hmagic New user 56 Posts |
Would it be those that don't require you to be seated? (Sorry, couldn't resist!)
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Shufton Veteran user California 306 Posts |
This depends. Sometimes stand up applies to close-up magic, when there is no table to use. You might be standing, performing for others that might also be standing.
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Like parlor magic, it refers to doing magic to a larger group. Close up is generally done for a small intimate group, Parlor is magic that would be done for a room full of people at the same time. Caberet magic is that done in a setting the size of a resturaunt or night club, Stage refers to something more along the size of a high school auditorium. It is magic that is visible over a large group, and they type of effects that the larger group can relate to, vs. the type that is only relatable when done for a handful of people. Stage magic can be things like linking rings, rope tricks, Some card tricks, most coin tricks other than things like miser's dream don't play well from a stage level. Box magic, Silk magic, dove magic, illusions, escapes, all these play in stage magic. Thus stand-up is generally considered to be a broad name for the genre of magic larger than close up in reference to the audience, thus parlor, caberet, stage, etc.
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F-Hmagic New user 56 Posts |
Thanks photius! Even though I jumped in there with a smart-alec answer, I was able to learn something today.
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stolz New user Sheffield 8 Posts |
Yes that's what I have always thought too Photius. It kind of answers my questions. I mean not necessarily "which effects you would choose", but "right, I'm looking to perform to a larger, parlor/stage type audience, so I'll want something that will be easily visible over a certain distance, involve a larger number of specs ....."
See what I mean ? Therefore, what makes a stage effect a stage effect ? Stolz
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
Part of the problem is that so many routines can be done in so many differing performance venues. For instance: A good solid rope routine. Close-up? Parlor? Stage? Actually, all three and using some of the really thick rope you can even do audiences that are quite large: 2000-3000 seats, etc.
When looking at any routine to see if it will work in the venue you have decided upon you simply have to think in terms of what is it that the spectators CAN see? You can perform various tests that will allow you to know with relative certinty that a trick or routine will work in the venue selected. For instance I have had friends help me by having them stand WAY away from me to simulate the farthest row in a theatre and then do the routine to see what it is that THEY see? One must assume the the hearing part will be taken care of by the use of sound equipment, etc. so what you want to know is how much is perceivable in a visual way by the audience. Although that covers a lot of the concerns one has that is not the only concern for there are many fine routines that have for instance a 'mental' presentation in which the 'effect' can be entirely portrayed verbally. What is seen and heard by the audience is the AFFECT upon those selected from the audience to assist the performer. A verbal mural of the EFFECT is painted for all to see in their minds. The AFFECT of the finale is then cast upon those who are assisting and their reaction BECOMES the final effect. And, so these types of routines can be considered as well. Nate Leipzig was noted for performing what today would only be considered as close-up fare, but doing it in front of huge audiences. He was a master showman and by using a small group of spectator on stage with him was able to entertain by means of the 'reaction' of close to him! Now days we would use audio visual devices to project the 'effects' themselves for all to actually see, but I am not at all convinced that the entertainment value is thus enhanced. I talked early on in my career to several older magicians who had seen Mr. Leipzig work and with one accord they lauded his amazing ability. All best,
Brad Burt
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
Excellent posts by Brad and photius.
I can only add that stand-up magic does not necessarily mean no table or in-hands magic. |
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