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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
My friend has some silky doves for sell. At first I did not know what he was talking about. He showed me one. I notice they can not fly far. Their feathers are slighly spread apart. They do feel real soft. Does anyone use these in a magic act?
It seems to be good to use a silky dove for outside purposes sense they cannot fly away. Any comments? |
Wade Live Veteran user Earth 322 Posts |
I use two silky doves in my dove act. They work great in my dove tray. I always had a bird fly off once the tray opened with the noise... :0) Thumbs up to silky doves!!!
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1906Alpha1906 Special user North Cacky Lack 516 Posts |
I used to use 2 silky doves also when I was first starting off because I was afraid of the fly away. They were good doves (10 +years ago). They look nice and from a distance, a spectator really can't tell the difference. However, mine weren't use to flying of course because they didn't, so the wing span was not the greatest when they would flap, and if they did get away, they would sort of flop to the ground, so some people would think they were injured. It was rare that ever happend, but when it did, you could see the look on some peoples faces worried about the dove.
They are great birds though. Go for it..... |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
It will be important to use them in the quadruple dove production I am working on. One of the first two might try and fly away after the next two show up flapping their wings.
But I'm afraid my spectators may think I am not taking care of my birds properly because of the brittle feathers. I have been performing self-working dove illusions for about 12 years. I always leave my animals out for display so my audience can get a good look afterwards (parlor size shows). I can still leave my dove from Carnival of Ribbons out for display. I can put the dove from the newspaper and the four from quadruple production in a my b****o b** to have them change into a rabbit. I remember Bob recommending not to use silky doves. What you think Bob? |
Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4850 Posts |
Mike, there's nothing wrong with using silky doves. They are just another breed and there is no reason for your audience to think otherwise. BTW, you don't have to abbreviate the name of a trick. You can say Blammo Box as this doesn't expose anything.
Here's a little information from the Dove hotline concerning Silkies Quote: Q. Where can I buy "silky" doves?
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
After I get a bigger cage I will call up my friend to see if he has four silky doves available. If he does not, I will get four more normal ones and clip their wings. Thank you for your time everyone.
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4850 Posts |
Mike, I shudder everytime I hear someone say they are going to clip the doves wings. It isn't necessary. I know your intent to keep them from flying away, however, clipping only impairs the flight. The audience will be much more appreciative and accepting you act if the doves fly away than they will be if they fall to the floor and can't fly.
Training is the best way to overcome this. Because of the routine you are working on, this may take more time than normal but the rewards will pay off in the end.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
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On 2007-05-08 01:44, Dynamike wrote: There are two reasons I don't recommend silky doves for stage magicians: 1. They are much harder to keep clean 2. Sometimes the audience can tell one from the other by sight. Therefore, appearances and disappearances can be less than convincing that it is the same bird. Otherwise, they are just a white dove with a "bad hair" day. It would be fun to do a routine that used a smooth and a silky dove. To the audience the dove changed costumes. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Yea, I know what you talking about Bob. I might feel uncomfortable using silky doves. The reason I might be uncomfortable is because the audience might be uncomfortable. I might get a heckler from the audience saying "What happened to his feathers?" Or a child saying "Ehh, I like the other one better."
It will be better for me to put a lot of extra training in with the normal doves with unclipped wings. Of course my best bet is to practice the moves with young doves soon as they get the right age so they will get use to those certain moves only. |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
I've never found an advantage in clipping wings.
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Wade Live Veteran user Earth 322 Posts |
I have used silky doves for over 5 years and NEVER had a remark about them. How close are you to your audience??
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I do mostly kid shows inside of a house.
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1906Alpha1906 Special user North Cacky Lack 516 Posts |
While Silkys are pretty birds, you may want to use just all silkies, then there is no difference. If you use a combination of the two, as Bob states, there will be a distinction. I wouldn't suggest clipping wings though, and it hinders the ability of the bird to full wing span that looks good but it also could injure the bird if you aren't careful. If you don't really want a dove to fly off on you, then just practice practice practice, which I am sure you do anyway *smile* as Dave states, the audience really appreciates it when a bird "gets away" from you because not only does it solidify the fact that they are real doves, sometimes the audience is wowed by the fact that it actually flew close to them and landed either on or near them.
Example. I was doing a show at a well known Children's home, and one of my doves flew off after a production. It circled the audience twice and landed on one of the children. The audience thought it was great. I continued on with my routine as if nothing were wrong, and when I finished, I went into my introduction and how I choose volunteers to help out in my effects. Since the dove was with the child, I mentioned that the dove was one way that I choose. The dove finds the biggest smile and lands there. So of course, the child was my first volunteer. After that, they all thought it was part of the dove act, and no one mentioned anything. What the adults wanted to know the most after the show was "How did you train your dove to pick out a child?" I thought it was a little funny, but my answer was "magic". *smile* So anyhow, flying is not bad (if you are indoors). |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
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On 2007-05-09 18:36, 1906Alpha1906 wrote: The answer lies there. Comfort should run in all four corners if one type is used through out the show. |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I love using Silky Doves. It just takes getting used to. Even they know they can not fly far, so they will stay on the perch throughout the hour show. If anyone has any for sell, let me know.
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