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PR_Magic New user 20 Posts |
I've been playing around with the zombie for a few months now and I can't seem to find a strong enough ending for it...I don't want to just put the ball back down to it's base and that's it...can anyone help me out? I would gladly appreciate it. Thanks!
yours truly, Paul, Magician |
Matthew W Inner circle New York 2456 Posts |
I just got one and plan on making it flow into my crystal tube. At the end of the routing I will open the ball and three juggling scarves will cascade out. I will juggle them for a short while and go into a crystal tube routine with the scarves.
I think it should look nice.
-Matt
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Drew Manning Special user Dallas, Texas 913 Posts |
Vanish the ball using the foulard you used during the routine.
I live my life for a layer of ice
Just like those poured by my bartender vice Any taste of vermouth would be really sublime, When you have a good martini time! -The Reverend Horton Heat |
graywolf Special user South carolina 631 Posts |
Change it to mylar confetti..Howard
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
General Grant has a good rountine with the Zombie. It disappears at the end. It is on his DVD "How to Make a Living by Stealing Doves."
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Frank Simpson Special user SW Montana 883 Posts |
I'm afraid I have to count myself among the camp that believes you should NEVER break your zombie open as a finish as it does negate the supposed "heaviness" of the object being floated.
If the breaking is masked by some sort of transformation effect that might be different. But sometimes simply stopping doing the trick is a good enough finish in and of itself. At the end of my routine I simply am left holding the ball in my hand with the cloth draped over my arm. Certainly not flashy, but the timing with the music I use gets a generous hand every time I perform it. |
Brent McLeod Inner circle 1792 Posts |
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On 2007-06-05 18:43, Frank Simpson wrote: Agree with Frank- Having performed Zombie for over 25 years including vanishes etc as a finale in every imaginable theatre,club etc I too now finish with the ball in my left hand & throw up the foulard ,catch & put over my left arm as the music finishes-always works!!-Lay audience reaction is strong The vanishes work well if you have a full tux, coat & tails etc but in general the idea is for a ball to misbehave & float etc-the vanish is optional Try a few shows on a stage with good music -see the reactions you are getting-keep the routine short 60-90 secs max!! Good luck -Brent |
Geoff Weber Inner circle Washington DC 1384 Posts |
I just end with it back on its base. It brings the routine full circle and lets the audience know its time to applaud.
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graywolf Special user South carolina 631 Posts |
It all depends on what comes out of the ball when broken open..See Neil Foster..Howard
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WoodRat Loyal user California 233 Posts |
I agree with Frank and Geoff,
The Zombie Ball can express so many personalities, my favorite is capriciousness. To have it gracefully settle back onto its base, or come to rest in the hands of its handler, seems to me a beautiful conclusion. Cheers =D
Learn something new everyday.
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Dmann Inner circle Crossville, Tennessee 1683 Posts |
Well I am just out of exile...and thought I might give my two cents worth on the subject of How to end a Zombie ball routine. First let me say...Where is Jeb Sherrill on this subject. That said...There are Vanishes that may be performed, Multiplications of the ball and I think it looks cool for a stack to be appeared. Just a few ideas that I have used over the years.
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Jeb Sherrill Inner circle Elsewhere 1161 Posts |
Dave, it certainly is good to have you back!
As for whether or not to open you Zombie, I'm not sure what to say anymore. On my DVDs I strongly suggested against it and even went so far as to seal the ball forever. In general I feel that splitting the ball simply takes away from the effect, but there are a few exceptions and I'm finding more the deeper I go. In fact, one of my Zombie routines now uses a split Zombie at the end. The reason being that I finally found a great effect to do with it. So to all, the best I can say is that it totally depends on why you are doing it. Some split ball methods bascially turn the ball into something else. Objects of mystical value might live inside the ball and are shown only at the end of the routine, or sometime during for all that matters. It will just have to depend on the effect you want and more importantly, the story you are trying to tell. Jeb
I don't believe in reincarnation, but I may have in another life.
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Dmann Inner circle Crossville, Tennessee 1683 Posts |
Hey Jeb, good to talk with you again...still looking forward to the New Zombie DVD. I believe as a general rule that Jeb is correct, in that spliting the ball is probably a no..no, unless there is a reason to do so.
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kregg Inner circle 1950 Posts |
For my money ... there's no better way to punctuate a mystery than with a superbly executed vanish.
Think about this: Several questions have been asked concerning the length of a Zombie routine. From the moment the ball starts floating, the audience starts making deductions, the "wow!" turns to "how?" Give or take a surprise or two along the way ... the clock is gearing down. Now, when an object is vanished and you're way ahead of the audience, the vanish happens at the split second of the vanish. Not before. It was there one second, gone the next. Taking it one step further. What if you vanish the foulard too?
POOF!
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DAVE_ATLAS New user Morganville, NJ 32 Posts |
I personally use the zombie Flash gimmick from the page below. I absolutely love it and feel it works amazingly well with a well executed vanish. I get great reactions every time I use it.
http://www.theatrefx.com/store/commerce......._devices It's almost at the bottom of the page --Dave |
Daniel Faith Inner circle Neenah, Wisconsin 1526 Posts |
You can also make the ending a foulardless routine. When you drop the foulard and still continue to float the ball really hits home. Then just let it come to rest in your hand.makes for a good closing.
Daniel Faith
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
I had a routine as a teenager using the styrofoam miracle bill that I'm still very proud of. Developed on my own it looked a *lot* like Losander's routine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waGI3EjEbJU But I also didn't like just ending it with the ball. EVen more so, I hated beign dirty with the gimmick still in my hand. What I did was this: I got a table with two wells in it from Flosso/Hornman (my old favorite magic shop that is no more) I put a pair of cloth loops on the back of the table curtain where I stood. At the end of the routine I would return to behind the table and drop the ball on its base, at the same time I'd drop the gimmick into the loops. I'd then pick up the ball in my left hand and the foulard folded in my right. As I dropped the foulard over the ball again, I'd drop the ball in a well and curl my left fingers towards me to make a rough half dome. I'd then carry this "ball" with my other hand on the outside of the foulard into the audience. I'd toss the foulard into the air, which would hold the dome shape for a moment because of its weight and stiffness, and catch the corners in both hands and "snap the ball away." This left me clean with just the foulard in my hands, and you would not believe how many times people told me they SAW the ball actually vanish in mid air. Suggestion is a wonderful thing
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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