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The Great Smartini Inner circle 2280 Posts |
http://www.magicenhancer.com/ChairSuspension.html
I would concur with what Capt. Kid suggested for you...check out the above link and do the research on chair suspensions and buy this ebook from our Café friend Kyle. |
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Jeff Haas Special user 929 Posts |
I have a used Mak Magic suspension for sale, I'll post a note in the for sale section.
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magicmarkdaniel Special user Bolton, England UK 831 Posts |
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On 2007-07-16 23:35, Starrpower wrote: I agree on that weakness but this has only happened to me a handful of times (I have used this a couple hundred times now). Every time, I have managed to turn it into a comedy moment for the adults. The adults will naturally laugh when a kid shouts out "take away the other chair", so make a comment and let them laugh with you, not at you! Mark
Mark Daniel
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KC Cameron Inner circle Raleigh, North Carolina 1944 Posts |
TooMuch,
PM me, I am looking at another website and am shopping designers. I think I have found one, but would be happy to look at your work! Put your design web site in your signature, I'm sure you could garner a bit of business. P.S. I have never seen a levitation/suspension "live" myself! Probably because I have a show of my own to do . . . Actually, in the birthday crowd in Raleigh, I don't think anyone else does one regularly - and we have some skilled magicians here. I know Jeff Jones occasionally will bring a Super X, but that is rare. It will be interesting to see if others get one now that one person has one (me). Mark, Granted, I have used my Mak chair Suspension less then 10 times, but I never have heard anyone say: Take away the other chair! Each time I get at least one gasp from an adult. I think it may be presentation. I never tip the hat that it is a suspension, and I don't act like I am doing any magic when it happens - it just happens and I don't notice it. I have done this for all ages - maybe they are just polite! Anand, The ones for people 100lb or less run about $450-$500 US. The ones that can take normal sized adults can be in the 3K range. I have a Mak, and I honestly don't see how they can charge so much. I fail to see how one could charge 3K for a stronger one . . . The method seems to be public domain, so you are not paying for "the secret". I think someone that could weld and had basic carpentry & sewing skills could make one for an adult in about 3 hours for maybe $125 in materials. I am sure someone sells a plan for one - maybe the Professor. |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I too like the Chair suspension. It does have it's limitations but it is a selling point for Birthday Parties. Lots have been said about it in several threads. And yes, Kyle's booklet is very good.
I've also come across home made ones that appeard rather weak in design and could result in a person falling. And that too is a fault in this. Even though I am very cautious, I have had a child sit up, decide in the middle to get down and one just a little too heavy but my foot held the chair just long enough to complete the routine. The magic carpet, as well as the chair suspension, have been alter slightly for sytge presentation so the second chair and the base of the flying Carpet can be taken away. This was done with my Multi-Purpose levitation. Which is much more costly, but given the opportunity to use it, it seals the illusion, turning it into a levitation.
Dennis Michael
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KC Cameron Inner circle Raleigh, North Carolina 1944 Posts |
I have thought of using a "seat belt" to keep them from sitting up. What do you think Dennis?
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
Strapping a kid down just wouldn't look right to me. Maybe if you had a funny routine in which you put a helmet on the kid, then a seat belt, etc. it could work.
I know a lot of you guys love this trick, but it never did anything for me. I sold mine because it was just bland. There are always the rude kids who want to run up, or scoot up and look under it, or call things out. It just wasn't entertaining enough or funny enough for me. I can get more mileage, laughs, and entertainment with a paper bag. |
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chris mcbrien Inner circle Chicago 1235 Posts |
Ha, I've got you beat, Starrpower! I use a booger and get more laughs!!!
But it's a vintage booker with Magic History..it came out of Houdini's nose...and the little green thing sings show-tunes.... |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I do not have too much time here at the moment as I am in the middle of moving into our first new home. I did, however, wanted to chime in here and thank you all for your very kind words regarding my chair suspension ebook. It was reallya labor of love and I wanted to put something out there that really talks about and covers off on so many of the common questions many have about the illusion.
I have had many good comments about it from folks like yourselves and I thank you for that. It is my hopes that it can be a big benefit to anyone who has this illusion or is thinking about the possibility of adding it into their own show. Thanks again and I will try and find time in the next few days to really write some information and share some of my own thoughts with you all. Thanks again. If anyone has any questions regarding my ebook, please just let me know via PM. Kyle
Kyle Peron
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KC Cameron Inner circle Raleigh, North Carolina 1944 Posts |
Star,
I actually do get a lot of mileage from a paper bag! Anyone else use a paper bag/invisible ball routine? I find it goes over well with the little ones to teens, and adults get a lot of chuckles from it too. It is a lot lighter than the chairs and board! |
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magicmarkdaniel Special user Bolton, England UK 831 Posts |
I can second Kyle's Chair Suspension book. Very informative, and even after performing the effect for ages, there was still a lot to be learned from the book.
Mark
Mark Daniel
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
No, I don't think strapping them down will do the trick. Covering them with the cloth seems to work well. And so doe chosing the right person.
Dennis Michael
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AndyComic Loyal user 211 Posts |
If I learnt anything from Kyles book is that for the suspension, you really need an assistant with you.
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MSatterwhite3 New user 7 Posts |
It just dawned on me (OK, I've been a bit slow) that I haven't said anything in the thread I started. I've been reading all the posts and really appreciate the insights. I really want to thank all of you who have posted - and those who continue to (in case I remain slow on the uptake).
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Louis LaLaurie New user New York, NY 79 Posts |
Strapping child to board is offensive here! I would not do this! Is there not a board to take away? Strap would say "there is something to hold onto under child" I think!
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KC Cameron Inner circle Raleigh, North Carolina 1944 Posts |
Did a chair suspension again today at a pre-school. Kids loved it. I have had a couple try to sit-up in the past. I think I may put velcro on the cloth.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Captain: Are you placing their hands together gently on their lap prior to wrapping them up? This is what I do every time and I also mention it in my ebook. The reason I do this is:
1) It makes the child more comfortable 2) It prevents them from grabbing or holding onto the anchorage area during the illusion 3) When the hands are togeher and on their lap, it is much harder physically to get up or sit up. Try this out next time if you are not already doing this. It makes a big difference. Kyle
Kyle Peron
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KC Cameron Inner circle Raleigh, North Carolina 1944 Posts |
Kyle,
Yes, I have them interlace their fingers. My show is very active, and they wanted to see what was happening, so I have changed it so they can see, and cut out some of the gags after they are on the board. The velcro is not to "strap them down", but to provide just a bit more resistance to sitting up. (Please note, I never said "strapping them down" earlier, although people seem to think that. I light heartedly said I thought about using seatbelts) |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Kid. That is good that you place their hands in their lap nicely and gently befor ewrapping them up. That helps a great deal. Also the fatc that their head hangs off the board and hangs downward also prevents them from getting up or trying to sit up. It is positioning on the board that helps with this. Also make sure that your routine is structured in such a way that trust is built between you and the child long before you place them on the board. This helps a great deal.
Kyle
Kyle Peron
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