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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Somewhere amongst the million or so messages here at the Café was asked about an "orange" thumb tip?
I had mentioned chrome plated ones were discussed a looooong time ago, as no one should see the venerable prop. Some said, you need to really paint it to match your flesh... I replied that I had never seen one that you couldn't see... and that no one should see it anyway. Well fun seekers... get Genii Magazine with Ross Bertram on the cover. You will see HIS HANDLING of the Tip... It is NEVER SEEN. There are many magical artistes that operate in a like manner... dig into Slydini's work, and others that have published on the subject.
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ChrisZampese Veteran user Hamilton, NZ 341 Posts |
This is an interesting debate, and like you said, one which has been discussed in many other posts.
I have just one question. Whats the point of a TT if it doesn't look like a Thumb. Maybe we should have a different name for this gimmick. If you handle it so that the specs never see it, then isn't it more like a dye-tube or something? I think it is funny that we use all sorts of sleights and msdirection to stop people seeing a gimmick that, to my mind, was designed to be seen (at least a bit anyway)
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Jeff Dial Special user Kent, WA 533 Posts |
The thumb tip is essentially a holdout that happens to come to rest on -- well, the tip of your thumb. A Sanada (sp?) gimmick does the same thing, but is designed to come to rest in a different part of the hand.
The TT allows the hand freedom of movement so that it appears empty while keeping the object being hidden in play (just like a holdout) The TT is its function not its design. John Lovick, of "Reparation" fame, published a set of lecture notes where he gave his handling of the $100 bill switch. The question he asked and solved is why would you use something big (a TT) to hide something small (a folded bill)? For me his handling of a no TT bill switch is every bit as effective with the only disadvantage of not being able to point your thumb directly at the audience to show your hand empty. If indeed that is an advantage. The TT seems most effective when you are hiding something larger than the tip (silk or sponge ball) or something messy (lit cigarette, salt, or sugar). It then becomes an excellent holdout. Regarding the chrome TT. There has been a camouflage thumb tip manufactured. It is painted in various shades of military greens and browns. (For you serious thinkers out there, it was a joke.)
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
Richard Ross actually DID a routine with a chrome thumb tip! Check his Stevens video.
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Wesley New user Sheffield U.K 56 Posts |
I agree that the TT shouldn't be seen, but why make it hard for yourself when a flesh coloured TT gives you much more freedom?
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gandolf Loyal user Hillsborough,NC 236 Posts |
I, for one, have a flesh colored thumb tip with skin creases, and a thumbnail. Is it more effective in hiding anything than a plain thumb tip? No, I just like it. I have heard of magicians who perform with an off color thumb tip. Their rationale is it makes them work harder to cover the gimmick. I disagree with them. My thinking is, anything which makes your routine more difficult to the audience to figure out is the way to go. I would never take the chance of ruining an illusion by having a spectator catch a "flash" of color/chrome.
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Wesley New user Sheffield U.K 56 Posts |
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On 2003-02-16 17:57, gandolf wrote: Well said, couldn't agree more! |
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