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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts 
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Some people make the performance of this effect much harder than it actually is. It's not a big deal to do "math" (heck, all you have to do is be able to add to 13..if you can't do that, get another job!) for it. Some people have the pairs set up with certain other pairs next to them, certain orders of color...blah, blah. You really should be able to overhand shuffle the pack at any time (namely after the effect) to clearly show it's ungimmicked. Also, the most ridiculous thing to do is, after the effect is over...putting that card back into the deck, face down just like it came out, as the spectator is watching you. If you're a magician, and you're doing that...think about it from THEIR point of view. That would mean that everybody picks the same card. Put it back on the deck, face up just like you would with a regular deck. Duh.
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts
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On 2007-09-28 20:23, Stevethomas wrote: Absolutely! 
And, don't forget to keep spreading after the face down card is revealed to show the rest of the face up deck. A lot of beginners forget to do this. Robert |
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RicHeka Inner circle 3999 Posts
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Good points.
As far as replacing the card...just hold a break,place the card face down on top and slip cut it to it's place as you are talking to them. Rich |
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michaelmystic2003 Inner circle 3062 Posts
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I personally think the end cards of each Invisible Deck should be a Joker. Then there wouldn't be any problems like this.
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17411 Posts
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Tell them you put a card on top of the deck the day before, then open the flap, and slowly slide out the deck, and they will see their card is the first one, then casually spread the rest of the deck...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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dobber Regular user 160 Posts
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I'm in the "Don't Cut The Cards" camp. Why add a move to something that requires absolutely no moves all?
Also, IMO the reversed card isn't technically on top or bottom-it's second from top or bottom. If it just so happens that it is the top/2nd from top card selected, simply reveal it right away and dramatically show the entire remainder of the deck to be face down. If the selected card is the bottom/2nd from bottom, simply fan through the face down deck until the chosen card is revealed. Let the tension build. I don't see a problem. Like Coach Boone said in Remember The Titans, "I don't dance unless I hear music." JMHO, dobber |
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RicHeka Inner circle 3999 Posts
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On 2007-09-28 21:49, Michaelmystic2003 wrote: Whatever turns you on. As I stated earlier.There is no problem for the spectator.The only problem exists in the performer's mind...who is laden with guilt. I can imagine you suggesting to the late great Don Alan.."hey,I think you should place a joker face down at both ends". 
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ursusminor Elite user Norway 443 Posts
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On 2007-09-30 20:31, dobber wrote: In reality it's second from top or at the bottom. How can you "Dramatically show the entire remainder of the deck to be face down"? This is not possible with an ID/Ultra Mental Deck. Whith all that said, I think this is a clear case of "Running when nobody is chasing you". Bjørn
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dobber Regular user 160 Posts
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Bjorn~I meant to say face up-not face down. Does that meke more sense?
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Wilber New user 76 Posts
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If you use the presentation where you get the spectator to shuffle the invisible cards then after they make their selection ask them to shuffle the cards once more. Now you can state that the face down card could be anywhere in the deck.
Now you at least have a small reason for the card to be at the bottom. |
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cajmagic Loyal user Long Beach, California 235 Posts
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You would hand a gaff deck to a participant?
I think this is not good advise
Caj Brejtfus
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lumberjohn Special user Memphis, TN 626 Posts
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Just use Osterlind's "Richardwave." That way, you will never have this problem. And moreover, after revealing the card, you can continue using the deck for your other card routines.
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Wilber New user 76 Posts
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On 2007-10-03 00:32, cajmagic wrote: Hehe no. You misunderstood I didn't mean the Invisible (gaff) deck gets shuffled. I meant I give the spectator an imaginary deck to shuffle. Its a classic handling of the invisible deck. |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1424 Posts
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On 2007-10-03 08:02, lumberjohn wrote: Can you tell me more about Richard's routine? |
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Bill Thompson Elite user Mississippi 422 Posts
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On 2007-10-03 16:15, Mac_Stone wrote: Better question... is this published? If so where?
"To let understanding stop at what cannot be understood is a high attainment.
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1424 Posts
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On 2007-10-03 20:21, misterbill wrote: What I meant to say. |
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elmago Loyal user Northridge- Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts
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Like Rich says, you are thinking like a magician and the audience really does not care.
If it bothers you that much, one way to avoid this is to always know which cards are on top and which are on the bottom. You keep the deck in the same order all the time. If it is a card on the bottom or near the top, cut the deck in the beginning before the spread since you are well ahead of the game. When you are done, replace the chosen card and cut to the original position. You could even "reset" right in front of them since they don't know what you are doing. MR
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