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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts 
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http://www.casinotrainers.com/videos/
Well they should be for that price! 
So does any one have any of these 300+ ones? Video: 23 Ways Playing Cards are Marked Cost: $350.00 Book: 23 Ways to Mark Playing Cards Cost: $39.95 Why is the book, which is not cheap, so much cheaper than the Video?
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Mr. Z Special user 818 Posts
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I figured it was Mike Joseph. A friend of mine attended one of his seminars a few months back, the topic being false shuffles. Very alarmist, and he essentially just did magic tricks.
If you've seen his crummy Beat a Cheat tape there's no reason to believe he's gotten any better since then, and for those outrageous prices? Bah.
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h2o Veteran user 305 Posts
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Sometimes it's useful to set the price high in order to target fortunate customers and makes them think they'll get invaluable information... how do you call that? a scam? oops...
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Unknown419 Inner circle 1321 Posts
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You guys are genius'. Now you see why I come here. I have this tape that Tommy mentions and he's absolutely right. Tommy you've saved me time from searching this mess out. $350 to $400 is what this junk cost? They're absolutely robbing the poker players but hey "you pay when you don't know."
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts
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Supposedly they are going to be at the Gaming Operation Summit in March of 2008.
I would try to see them their to see how good their material is? You may also want to check out the http://www.worldgameprotection.com/ there will also be some different and more interesting speakers there too.
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts
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Anyone we know??
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Ed Thorp would be fascinating...he was my inspiration when I developed my own multi-level card counting system in the mid-1970's.
Russell Barnhart told me about him and the rest is history. I took his ideas and worked on the college computer to enhance them. I still have the 30 year old computer runs in the attic as proof of my research. I started majoring in computer science, physics and chemistry. Then got my degree in computer science with a PHD in magic ... and we all know that magicians like to 'Pile it Higher and Deeper"
The system served me well through the 1980s and early 1990s, until the casinos started getting too smart in the very late 1990s and early 2000. It was fun while it lasted and I was never asked to leave a casino But, dealers did "shuffle-up" on me a few times 
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts
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Bob arno would be great to see, like thorp.
expert, ever heard of a book fortunes formula? its about thorp and his theorys and the stock market. regards, kevin
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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At a grand a ticket I think more of buying one to counterfeit them than to go there.
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Mr. Z Special user 818 Posts
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Quote:
On 2007-11-26 00:33, Expertmagician wrote: Are ya still broke after all that?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Women can spend it faster than you can win it.
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts
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Quote:
On 2007-11-26 01:56, kcg5 wrote: I have Thorps book and some academic papers he wrote on the stock market. But, have not re-read them in many years. They were mostly based upon arbitrage BEFORE it became popular. But, I do not recall the term "book fortunes formula" ? MRZ, By the way, fortunately, I made a decent amount of money during my card counting years. I used to go to Vegas 2-3 times per year AND I went to Atlantic City twice per month. In the early years Atlantic City was great when they offered Early Surrender and Surrender rules. As the casinos got smarter, I plugged the rules changes into my computer and when the odds were almost break even...I decided it was not worth the risk. I was there to make money, not gamble. So, I need the odds in my favor.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts
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Thanks...I missed that book....I never heard of it...thanks !
Sounds like an interesting read.... Even if I just get one new idea, I'm happy
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts
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Thanks, tommy-thats it.
expert (sorry I forgot to put quotes around the title)- its a great read. it goes into how he got started, who mr.z and mr. x were, counting, theory, and even Michael milken. let me know what you think. regards, kevin
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Will do !
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