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Hector Loyal user 273 Posts |
I think this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3jij3CZ8yI&feature=related I also a great example... |
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Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
I think that the European form version of the Asrah would be better if it wasn't performed as an Asrah style levitation.
If on the other hand it was done as a kind of impossible magnetic lift/suspension whereby the covered body is raised up by simply resting a palm or fingertip on the top of the covered form the whole thing would ( I think)look more believable. By using only one hand the other could stay at the performers side and so come into play out of sight less obviously in the latter part of the rise. The 'look I'm not using my hands' start; followed by the 'look now I'm maybe using 1 or both hands' latter stage; seems to stand out as if to direct the audience to the method. this is even more the case when any horizontal movement is added. It needs to be made to look like the body is floating away on it's own accord. This is quite a difficult look to achieve. There is a tendency for it to look like it is being carried. Maybe going for a zombie kind of look from the outset would help steer the handling that way and encourage a more floating look. As for the vanish...well maybe we have our magicians heads on when we watch the f**m being collapsed and think it looks like its a f**m being collapsed. If the audience believes there is a person under the cloth then the inward gathering of the cloth is still pretty effective...the problem though is usually with that 'If'. The guy on the 1st clip looked to try an alternative approach that worked to some degree. that is collapsing the f**m as the cloth is 'thrown/taken/moved' side. I think this could be worth exploring. To get the effect that the cloth is pulled away revealing nothing there. To do this the f**m needs to be collapsed largly from one end but there's no getting away from the fact that it doesn't compare to the traditional Asrah. But then maybe it's not such a good idea to compare the two anyway. The European version for all its failings can for example be worked in much more restrictive environments. Regarding the eventual vanish... I'd like to see Geoffery Durhams version of this effect. I have a set of his lecture notes that includes this effect using a very differently constructed f**m (completely different in both functioning method, structure and materials) which would lead to a very different look to the 'vanish'. Instead of collasping inwards from the ends the 'body' should look as if it vanishes in situ leaving the cloth to just drop away and be left hanging over an outstretched arm. I've not seen this version performed though so who knows... Anyone used or seen Geoffery's version? Neal
Neal Austin
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Mattillusion Regular user 170 Posts |
Just as a breath of fresh air...
Don Wayne and David Copperfield's awesome take on the Asrah: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=......lindex=4 |
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
Yes Hector another Asrah example,
but the link you posted is not the European version. But it still does not work well at all, it can only be performed because of multiple cuts to ditch the assistant, etc. and note that her feet seem to grow to size 22 as she floats. I guess my feeling is, if you can't do it well, don't post it on the world wide web. Again, the Owen Supreme version is the very best for this method. Magically, Walt |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2007-11-27 16:00, Chad Sanborn wrote: I know what you mean. We have superstitious rednecks in Michigan, too. I'm always a little leery of people who think magic comes from some evil supernatural entity. If it weren't for the law, they'd probably burn people at the stake. As for the Asrah, I like the version that Mark Wilson does on one of the Magic Circus DVDs. The European Asrah is practical, but the more elaborate Asrah just looks right. I looked at the Keller performance. Can't the guy find a table that supports his assistant's head and legs? What was he thinking? The f**m looked weird, too. |
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gsidhe Inner circle Michigan 1725 Posts |
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On 2007-12-03 19:08, Alan Munro wrote: How did I know without looking that you were talking about Grand Rapids... I love this town...but it scares me a little. Gwyd |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2007-12-04 11:06, gsidhe wrote: It scares me, too. I hate it when people trust a mentally ill and corrupt preacher over their own common sense. I've had a few shows canceled, because someone at a church that I was to perform at insisted that magic was evil. We really indulge these people way too much in Grand Rapids, rather than committing them to institutions. I've gone back to requiring deposits for shows, after years of not doing so, simply because people think nothing of canceling a day or two before. I have a number of friends who are churchgoers, but they think about what they believe. They won't "drink the Kool-aid" just because their preacher tells them to! Blind faith in people is a dangerous thing. Too many churchgoers have faith in their preacher, rather than in God. |
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MagicofKevin_85 New user 17 Posts |
Thanks Tim
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