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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
An article about a young EA trying to obtain insurance approval:
http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=95447&sc=79 What are some of the experiences among the rest of the group? Thanks, Tod
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
Yes, great question.
I'm assuming everyone tells their agent they are entertainers - as opposed to people who cheat death. Let's give some business to the least expensive agents who actually do something. Name names, if you will. I assume everyone is aware there are two (or more) levels of protection. The first is where you really are not covered for anything - all the policy does is give you a piece of paper to show the sponsors. The most important clause on those policies is, Not covered for anything dangerous... If something should happen, you might find yourself suing your own insurance company to represent you because THEY could say the act was dangerous, even if it only involved sponge balls and no one ever got hurt ever before since the start of time. The next issue is where you have a policy and add the sponsor as an additional insured, just for that one show. I ALWAYS quote prices, to organizations, by saying, "And that price does not include any taxes, fees, additional paperwork, parking fees or travel expenses." If they call back and want that binder, I tell them that it's not included in the price of the show and whatever the insurance company wants to charge me is how much extra the fee will be - that it's the same as if they purchased insurance on their own, but in this case they are doing it through my insurance company. In any event, coverage is usually sparse, in my experience.
Jay Leslie
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Have found in the UK that Public Liability Insurance is not a problem to get, but of course, this covers the speckies and not you.
For self cover doing escapes against personal injury....I have yet to find any full cover on offer over here. If you are Equity registered PLI through First Act Insurance is very cheap, but when you add the dreaded words...Fire or Risk...then extra monies, sometimes three times the amount, are quoted and even then reading the small print will only give protection to your speckies!!!! So I have PLI up to 5 mill, that's it...bookers are mainly concerned for the punters safety, so not one so far has queried cover for myself!!! Ken |
jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
Many of the sponsors here are asking for a binder where anything that happens to anyone as a result of your performance is your responsibility.
I had a family ask me to fix their car because they rear-ended the next car and said it was my responsibility due to the fact they were coming to see my show. ‡
Jay Leslie
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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
What happened in the case, Leslie?
Tod
Mystifier, Youth Speaker
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
I hung the phone up and never heard from them again. I suppose they knew how stupid they sounded.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
The Donster Inner circle 4817 Posts |
Might of been funny to see that case in court or the tabloids here. "Family Sues for Their STUPIDITY"
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
I also had a school nurse tell me that a student tripped and fell on the way into the auditorium and she hoped the parents didn't make a big deal about it.
Glad I hold 100 percent interest in a corporation that books my shows and I'm not doing it by myself. Times are a-changing. I never used fire and would be afraid, if I did, someone seeing the show would try to emulate me by getting a pot from the kitchen and seeing if a rabbit appears from an in-home inferno.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
pastorclyde Special user 576 Posts |
Some insurance companies won't insure escape artists and say so up front. There are a couple who do. I believe it runs about $250 per year for basic coverage.
Clyde |
Caveat Lector Elite user 493 Posts |
You might want to try this company http://www.specialtyinsuranceagency.com/about-us.html. I have used them for 4 years and they have been great.
John
Corrupting the art of magic, one show at a time
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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
Who is your preferred insurance company Pastor, if you don't mind my asking.
Tod
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
I'd be interested too.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
pastorclyde Special user 576 Posts |
Specilty insurance is the one I was referring to. Its good unless you use pyrotechnics then they won't cover you. At least they will cover escape artists. They prefer you state- magician specializing in escapes.
Hope this helps, Clyde |
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