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Samuel Catoe Inner circle South Carolina 1268 Posts |
What is prison really like here in the US? I can't speak for any state other than the one I live in, but I can speak for it.
Assuming you behave once you are incarcerated these are your privledges basically. I assume placement inside a medium security facility. You are placed in a cell with whomever the system decides to place you. With overcrowding this means you will most likely have two cell mates. Lights on at about 5:00-5:30AM You are assigned a job based on nothing at all. If you have plumbing experience and are a master plumber on the outside, you will probably be working as a cook in the kitchen. If you are a chef, you will probably be moping floors. You can watch tv. No cable, just network. If the tvs are working and the dorm is not on restriction because other people decided to act up. There are only four tvs at the most so you get to watch whatever the majority wants. On game/race day this means the game/race. Lights out around 10:30-11:00PM Now to your priviledges. Food- Three meals a day at 5:30AM, 11:30AM, and 6:00PM roughly. Meals vary from fried chicken livers, to spaghetti, to cold cheese and green bologna sandwiches. Breakfast is grits and eggs. If you miss a meal because you were asleep or because you misbehaved in the Caféteria, you get to eat at the next meal. Medical- You have access to medical attention most of the day but not 24 hours a day. Additionally, you have to pay for medical attention in prison like outside. The fee is $2-$3. It may not seem like much, but it's a lot when you don't have it. Recreation- You can go outside and walk, play basketball, or play handball on the rec field when it is opened twice a day for a few hours if the weather is good. The rec field is fenced in like everything else and no one is on it except the people in you living unit. Library- You have access to law books but need permission to use them and only at certain times and under certain circumstances. While you are staying with the state, you get to share your time with all manner of thieves, rapists, and drug dealers. The weaker and more vulnerable inmates are preyed upon but the thieves. Often all of their clothing is stolen, especially at christmas time when inmates are allowed to receive gifts of underwear and socks. These items are usually taken by force and the victim is often sent to see medical (for free since the injury is not the victim's fault) to get their wounds tended to. Sometimes the victim is sent via ambulance due to the severity of their wounds. Sometimes you will be placed in a cell with a thief or rapist who plans to assault you when the cell doors are locked. Sometimes on top of that, you have a lazy officer working your living area and isn't going to come and get you out of the trouble that is going to start when the door is locked. That is what you have to look forward to. 3 meals, tv, recreation, robbing, and possible rape. Ah, the life of Riley. It's a lot to look toward for the drunk driver.
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
Samuel,
I believe what you say, and I think that there are probably similarities in other states to what you have told us. If a fool has chosen to drive drunk and hurts or kills someone... that is shatters another's family through shear recklessness, I have trouble crying for his condition in the prison you describe.
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bloodyjack Veteran user Seattle WA 343 Posts |
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Here in Washington their is a law being proposed that habitual DWI offenders be issued with a bright yellow license plate in hopes that this will somehow keep them from operating their vehicle under the influence. It of course will not work at all. They'd be better off passing a law that would issue a yellow drivers license to the convicted individual and make it illegal to sell or serve alcohol to them. [/quote] Hey Payne they do just that hear in Washington if you have a hole punched through the middle of the seal of Washington on your driver’s license then bartenders and liquor stores are not allowed to serve you. I know because my friend’s X wife has had this done. There actually pretty tough on your second offense not only do you get your license punched you have to rent a blow machine in your car to make it start and take AA classes and jump through all types of hoops plus with the blow machine rental and the compulsory classes it comes to about $5000 dollars to stay out of jail. The money thing is a big deterrent. Ironically my avatar was an over indulging night of crown royal and cigars at Toms place
"sir i sent you half the kidne i took from one woman prasarved it for you tother piece i fried and ate it was very nise i may send you the bloody knif that took it out if you only wate a whil longer"
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2008-02-15 23:12, Samuel Catoe wrote: But only if they get put there.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Samuel Catoe Inner circle South Carolina 1268 Posts |
True enough. One of the biggest problems of drunk driving from a legal stand point is the laxity of the laws dealing with said offense. However, the law is being revamped every year and will one day reflect the severity of the problem. Prevention is a better alternative to punishment. Mind you, if the punishment was as severe and swift as in some other parts of the world, repeat offenders would be a thing of the past.
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
She stole my heart. A bottle of 12 year old Balvenie for my birthday was all she left me.
Consuming the alcohol the demons awoke. Poking fun at me. I had to get away from them. I drove faster and faster as the demons where catching up... |
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts |
19 DUI's. 8 years in jail.
And what about judicial rewiew? Do they ever go back and look at the judges that did not impose maxium sentences on his 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th,12th,13th,14th,15th,16th,17th and 18th offences to see if they are even fit to be on the bench? Even this judge. He makes a big deal out of scolding the guy and talks tough. Then he gives him eight years when he could have given him ten. What does he see in this case that tells him something other than the max sentence is warranted? It's his 19th offense and he was involved in a HIT AND RUN accident, but lets give him a little break. "When I look at everything you've done in the past, your record doesn't warrant any further consideration," (judge)Powers said. Well, isn't that a load of crap? He did give him consideration. He gave him two years less than he could have. http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll......-1/CINCI
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
My older brother should be the poster child for drunk drivers. He has done the following to my knowledge and it should be noted that he will never be issued a license again in California but then again he lives in a bush now so it isn't likely he'll be going for one soon.
Drunk in public arrests: Numbers into the hundreds Drunk Driving without an accident: 23 (note he has never owned a car, but if he sees your keys....) Cars crashed into ditches: two Cars rammed into multiple poles resulting in an amazing survival: one Cars rammed into other objects: two Cars backed into police car at Jack In The Box: one Knees broken by police officer who didn't find his threats funny: one broken jaws caused by punches: three broken wrists caused by returning punches: two Times other car ran into him while he was drunk in street: one Highest blood level: .38 give or take (only obtainable if you are a very serious drunk, many would die from this or be unconcious). It should be noted this was after he hit multiple poles and he was STILL fighting the police at the hospital. End result. Due to booze and accidents he is in a wheelchair, homeless, has brain damage, is a hopeless drunk, and can STILL get women.....go figure. |
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2008-02-20 17:18, MagicSanta wrote: Yes but they're probably not the type of women you'd like to get. I prefer mine sober and with an IQ above 125. A former Boss of mine had a son who at age 19 got drunk and had a rather nasty accident involving several parked cars and a flipped over vehicle. There were witnesses up the gazzoo, police reports, and hospital records verifying the extraordinary high rate of inebriation. The father found a lawyer ho specialized in winning DUI cases. Had a hundred percent record in doing so as he knew all the tricks. $15,000 dollars later the kid walked with a perfectly clean driving record.
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abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
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On 2008-02-20 18:03, Payne wrote: Now that is justice. Great that so many young kids of wealthier parents learn such invaluable life lessons at a young age and therefore become as respsponsible as Paris Hilton. It is a glowing example of how far the Western world has progressed over the past 50 years. |
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Big Jeff Loyal user 300 Posts |
It's not just the lawyers getting kids off, sometimes it's the judges not following the law.
I had a friend who was murdered trying to stop an auto burglary. The perp had been breaking into cars all along the coast from san Diego to oxnard. My friend was at the beach walking to his car when a lady yelled that someone was breaking into her car, my friend and others gave chase and when my friend caught the guy he turned and stabbed him in the heart with a welding rod. The other people caught him and the police arrested him. In calif we have a law that says if you are convicted of murder with "Special Circumstances" you get MADATORY LIFE WITH NO PAROLE. Auto burglary is a special circumstance. The judge had more sympathy for the perps family than my friends. He got 25 to life WITH PAROLE. Hopefully, he will die in prison from old age or something else. |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Let me see, in California 25 to life means eight and a half years if he behaves. As soon as he walks in the place half the sentence is dropped, that takes it to 12.5 years. For every two good days he gets a third off, that brings off 4 years and two months, leaving just over eight years.
On the drunk thing my brother has been sentenced to over three years in jail combined but has served a total of three weeks total. Cool huh? My younger brother blew a tire and a cop stopped to help and the partner smelled beer and while he passed the sobriety test the partner wanted him tested anyway and he, my little brother, was at 0.08 exactly. It was his second time, the other also being 0.08, so he got a year which means four months and he didn't get out a minute early. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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It is a glowing example of how far the Western world has progressed over the past 50 years. That's almost as bad as using segregated schools, all-white/all-male Supreme Courts, and felony laws against consensual physical relations between adults to show how wonderful things were 50 years ago.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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abc Inner circle South African in Taiwan 1081 Posts |
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On 2008-02-21 14:17, LobowolfXXX wrote: This lawyer guy is making my life very hard. OK to rephrase in simpler language what I really meant. Political systems have flaws in them we blame on everything except the real reason in my opinion. The same goes for judicial systems, sports, education etc. The main problem is that all of these things are centered around humans. The problem is us. Things will never be perfect. The more we want it to be perfect the more mistales we will make. It is inevitable. The only perfect people in the world are magicians. Those that disagree should read more on the Café. Where drinking and driving is a serious offense because it endangers human lives drinking and surfing the Café is not illegal and depending on how much you drink also not really dangerous. |
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magicaldj1 Regular user Madison, Wisconsin 122 Posts |
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On 2008-02-14 16:47, Payne wrote: I agree with you there Payne |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2008-02-14 16:47, Payne wrote: Gee maybe they'll cut the plates into a star-shape. That might help... John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Gotta love a proposal for the appearance of a car that "habitual DWI offenders" will be allowed to drive. I can only assume that if a 10-time DWI offender slammed his car into the family of the genius that proposed this one, he'd say to himself, "Well, at least he had a bright yellow license plate."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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magicaldj1 Regular user Madison, Wisconsin 122 Posts |
I personally think that after the first time they should either install one of those ignition breathalizers that won't let you start your car unless you blow into it, or take away the persons car altogether.
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The Mirror Images Inner circle Michigan/USA 1980 Posts |
That is a neat idea. is there a such invention out there? It would save lives big time. But then they would say the government is too controlling. Cant win in everything.
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