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magicalmischief Loyal user Massachusetts 239 Posts |
Can anyone tell me if the Osborne individual illusion plans are more detailed with specific dimensions then in his Illusion System books? I had Book 1 and misplaced it, but remember that they were difficult to get specific dimensions from. I will most likely purchase individual plans if they are better in detail
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Individual plans are larger, hence easier to read. Other than that, the large ones are the same as those in the books. Dimension problems on one are also on the other.
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JayH Regular user Finland 140 Posts |
The individual plans as far as I have understand are on scale on blueprint paper and there is dimensions and also some performance tips included.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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Other than that, the large ones are the same as those in the books. Dimension problems on one are also on the other. Which, to tie this to another thread on illusion books is the best reason to get the "Great Illusions" book. The precise measurements are included. Following the adage of not putting all of ones eggs into one basket, I prefer to gather as many sources as possible and combine the best ideas from them all into one new set of plans, that I draw myself. If you're not good at drafting, simple sketches with precise measurements noted, along with a "parts" or cutting list will be a real nice addition to any set of purchased plans.
~michael baker
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magicalmischief Loyal user Massachusetts 239 Posts |
Where might I find this "Great Illusions" book
Seems to me that death is just natures way of telling us to SLOW DOWN!
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61magic Special user Sacramento California 775 Posts |
Many of the plans now published in his books are reductions of the original full size plan.
They contain the same information but in the process of reducung the true scale the size is not the same, and can not be measured accurately with an architects ruler. Book one was true to scale as are some of the other books, so watch very closely. The actual details will be easier to read due to the size, but the measurements called out on the drawing is the same. This is why the true scale is important, with the correct ruler you can measure any part of the drawing and get the measurement. One thing to remember the illusion are generic is size any may not fit your needs so adjustments could be needed making the final measurements different from the plans.
Professor J. P. Fawkes
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2008-04-14 20:10, magicalmischief wrote: Occassionally, I see someone selling a set either here or on one of the auction sites. You may want to ask in the books for sale forum here.
~michael baker
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Lusion Special user 590 Posts |
The book(s) are on e-bay right now
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magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 544 Posts |
One tip that I feel I should share is the importance of making a "mock-up" of what you are building first. It needn't be very elaborate, but if the illusion that you are building relies on a "hiding place" for your assistant then it is imperative that you build a mock-up first to make sure that she actually fits inside! (and can get in and out!) I build mine out of hardboard with timber battens screwed to the outside which is cheap and easy to work. Certainly in the last illusion that I built, it showed that the box needed to be an inch bigger in two directions - perhaps that was down to the size and shape of my assistant or perhaps the size and shape of the assistant of the person that drew the original plans!?
Needless to say, I would have been very dissapointed if I had just built the finished product and found that my assistant didn't fit inside! |
Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Excellent point on the mock up. You'd be surprised how many things can be discovered in retrospect. I once built a subtrunk with the intension of it being able to store and transport the rest of the act. When the box was finished, I discovered that it was just a bit too large to fit through a standard doorway. As it was, it had to be transported broken down and, re-set up everytime it was to be used.
~michael baker
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owln_1 Loyal user dallas /now live by tulsa 222 Posts |
I always build a proto type out scrap plywood to figure out detail and workings of the project, you can learn what needs to be done first ( gimmicks operations )tear it apart and rebuild as many times as you need, then I go and buy the good wood for my prop. I also paint and decorate my mock up, some of them turn out good enough to use for real. Owln_1
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