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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I like the fact that you are open to ideas and to testing things out. As long as the restaurant you are working for has no problems with you receiving tips, then I say anything is fair game in order to get them. (shot of being rude or disrespectful of course) I mean it is called "show Business" for a reason and we need to learn ways in which to help ourselves.
I think this certainly is a technique worth trying and testing and see what happens. It looks like it worked great for you Christopher and I would be curious to see how you do next time also as well as an off night. Congrats. Kyle
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
So last night went pretty well. Not as good as Thursday but still better than my average. I ended the night at $71.00. On an average Friday Night, I end up at about $50.00. So all in all...pretty good!
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mrsmiles Elite user 442 Posts |
There's 3 little words that will always gaurentee one will never be poor, it's 'stick 'em up'! Money quickly changes hands if supported with the necessary gimmick that you point in their direction...
Seriously, good luck to you. This is something that I personally though would not be comfortable with doing.... I agree with you that we are not paid what we are worth, so not doing what you do is costing me potential earnings from what you say, I'm sure you're right. I even actively discourage tips - I introduce myself saying the entertainment is compliments of the management. Part of my 'pitch' to a restaurant - and to the waiters when I'm there - is that I don't work for tips so that the waiters have nothing to worry about and that often the tip left behind for the waiter is bigger than it might have been without me being there - which to the manager is a selling point to having me as it will help keep your waiters happy. It also reinforces to the manager the need to maximise my fee as tips to the magician are detrimental to the performers and waiter staffs' interests if you look at it from this (my) point of view. Just my opinion. It probably is just a 'personality' personal preference kind of thing for me. But I'm sure the technique you're explaining for maximising tips is well worth using.
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
>> I even actively discourage tips - I introduce myself saying the entertainment is compliments of the management <<
I do not discourage tipping but it's advertised by the restaurant that the house provides FREE entertainment at their table. If I do a good job and they wish to thank me by tipping me, then to deny accepting it would be rude. I've never asked for a tip and I never will. But a subliminal message as this is a nice touch...and having used it now over the last 4 nights I can tell you that it works! I know the tip debate has been done to death on here...some accept them, some don't. I do. I will never turn down money! Has anyone else tried this idea and has it worked for you?
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Natanel Special user 739 Posts |
I love this idea and will try it this weekend at my regular restaurant gig. It the sneaky things like this that make magic so much fun.
Something I've found helpful with tips: I generally leave the table with a bit of a flourish and very rapidly as soon as I finish my last effect. This means that even if they want to tip me they wont have a chance, so it forces them to come find me and give me a tip. Many times I will be halfway through my set, and someone from my previous table will come up behind me and hand me a tip, thus encouraging the current table to tip me. It works exceptionally well if you are performing for a family and they send a young kid over. I stumbled across this technique by accident (I merely wanted to leave tables with a dramatic flair), but it has served me very well.
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Gaffus Maximus Regular user 110 Posts |
I like this topic, and some wonderful ideas have been shared here. Thanks!
Just keep in mind that not everyone carries cash with them (even when they go out to dinner), so don't assume that your hard work isn't being appreciated. In some cases, your audience would probably love to tip you... but they just can't at the moment. That's another reason why I like some of the ideas shared here. You're not making anyone feel bad (whether they understand tipping etiquette, or whether they just didn't happen to be carrying cash with them that evening). Cheers! |
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
I agree with what you say Gaffus! I LOVED being tipped! (Who doesn't?) But if I'm not, then it's ok...I don't make the person feel bad and if anyone ever asks me "is it free" I always say YES and just leave it at that!
You're right...not everyone carries cash on them. On more than one occassion I was approached by the Manager who gave me $20 telling me that table #12 added a tip onto their credit card and wanted to make sure I got it. Let's the manager know that I'm being well received too...which is always good!
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pepka Inner circle Uh, I'm the one on the right. 5041 Posts |
This sounds like a great idea. I'll try it this weekend and report back.
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Kex Special user Arlington, Texas 577 Posts |
Just curious if this will work outside of the restaurant venue. Suppose you are doing walk around magic at a party. I'd imagine it could have potential there as well. Anyone, tried this yet?
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Natanel Special user 739 Posts |
I feel like it's highly tacky to solicit tips in any capacity at a private gig.
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
I agree with Nate on this...I've NEVER tried to get a tip at a private gig. When performing for a private event, I'm billing the client upwards of $1000.00 for my services. It's not to say that I wasn't offered a tip at a private event...it happens all the time...but I don't go out of my way to try and secure it either.
Just me...? Christopher
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JeffMac Veteran user Sudbury, ont 350 Posts |
Bartending for years I've used pretty much this same idea for years. Early in the night I would pick someone out and over thank them for their tip then treat them like gold for the rest of the night. I'd then continue to do the same for every customer that caught on to what was going on.
Although when I managed I also realized that the bartenders who were confident they were going to get good tips usually did. People like confident people and feel they are worth more. So in their mind they feel the need to tip or tip better. As far as private party's go when people offer me tips I usually tell them to buy the host a drink as he's already taken care of me. Usually what ends up happening is they go tell the host how impressed they are and my tip from the host goes up, he feels good about having me, and I get more bookings. |
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