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shortdog New user Ft. Bragg 64 Posts 
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I have noticed that magic is dominated by men. Most laymen can't even name a female magician. I can only name half a dozen.
But we all know this fact. What I'm concerned with is that magic seems to have more of an effect on men. At least the finger flicking aspect. What seems to work the best on women seems to be mentalism. I think it's because mentalism is more personal, the magic happens to them, it's something they can feel. What I do usually is a simple force and "mind/body reading". Hellstromism is nice too. Is it the "that's impossible" factor, or just me?
-Daniel McGuinny
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Mainly I perform card work for women actually. That is only because I run a poker club and most of the women that accompany the men there do not play poker. They come to the place for fun, to a have drink and socialise etc. I often show them card magic for their amusement and find them pleasanter than men. Well I mean men are more like magicians, so it seems to me, in that they tend to want to know how the trick is down, rather than just enjoying the magic. Women are definitely different than men and I definitely prefer women for some reason.
 I think they are more fun loving.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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jfquackenbush Special user Out here on the desert 607 Posts
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That hasn't been my experience. I seem to get bigger and better reactions from women from a well executed trick. more often than not if someone is trying to grab the cards and shuffle them or burn my hands or in some other way missing the point of watching a magic trick, that someone is male. so for what it's worth, my experience of performing for the different sexes has been different.
Mr. Quackenbush believes that there is no such thing as a good magic trick.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2008-06-24 08:28, shortdog wrote: I agree with the observation, but I have a different take on the explanation. Actually, I think it's more like the "that's possible" factor! My experience/impression is that women are more likely to be open to supernatural/paranormal type phenomena, and thus more liable to amazement at mentalism than men who are more likely to be adamant in their belief that it's "just a trick." When it comes to magic, my observation is that anything that is hands-on (by the spectator) is a particularly good idea. Of course, magic in the spectator's hands is always super-powerful anyway, but I think even moreso with women, so spongeballs, Dr. Daley's Last Trick, Between the Palms, a coin transposition/transformation in the spectator's hands (e.g. Greg Wilson's "A Questionable Trick"). Just my 2 cents (or was it 11 cents?!)
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts
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You can name 1/2 dozen female magicians?
okay, go ahead. |
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shortdog New user Ft. Bragg 64 Posts
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Angela Funovits, the Charlotte Pendragon, Arian Black....ok, 1/4 dozen.
-Daniel McGuinny
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Ursula Martinez, springs to mind.... she would.. if you have seen her perform you will not forget it.
Tina Lennart. Just great!
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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cmnipper Loyal user 205 Posts
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On 2008-06-24 16:44, tommy wrote: Where did it go?
Chad Nipper
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Here's a quick 6.
Frances Willard Melinda Luna Shemada Sophie Evans Sue Ann Webster Galina The list actually goes on and on... Ursala Martinez (not really a magician). That there is called Performance Art. |
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Casey Magic Regular user North Carolina 177 Posts
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Dude. Jade!
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts
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Cherie Kay, Trixie Bond, Jen Adams, Sisupahn, Princess Tenko, Juliana Chen, Lisa Mena, Diana Zimmerman, Becky Blaney, Suzanne...
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts
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Celeste Evans, Debbie Lefier, Margarette, Autumn Morning Star
"Now here's the man with the 25 cent hands, that two bit magician..."
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts
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So now, here's something funny...
We just named more women than he (Shortdog) will be able to name men! See Shortdog, you need to know your history as well (if not more than) as your sleights. The road to becoming a magician is very long...and No ONE ever makes to the destination. Enjoy the trip and along the way you'll become a better magician. Good luck - |
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shortdog New user Ft. Bragg 64 Posts
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I can name a good amount of magicians, but remember that I have only been in the game for a little over a year. I see nothing really "Funny" about that. It's just normal. If I were to turn on a professional shuffle board game, I wouldn't know the players, or where the game started. It is a journey, I agree, but you also should not assume that I have overlooked the historical factor. I have not, but I have an extremely demanding life, so when it comes time to practice, I tend to pick up a book on technique, rather then history. My choice.
-Daniel McGuinny
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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"Ursala Martinez (not really a magician). That there is called Performance Art."
Isn't magic a Performance Art? What women magicians that were named are history?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Margarette Special user Memphis area 956 Posts
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On 2008-06-24 08:28, shortdog wrote: Okay, I'm not getting into the discussion on the lack of women in magic, but I do caution anyone thinking that one particular type of magic is "best suited" for the female crowd. I know some women who absolutely love card tricks.....I happen to dislike card tricks with a passion. I love the escapes....other women think it's not "ladylike" to do such things. As for mentalism....if it is performed well, I really like it....if it's performed poorly...I'd rather see a card trick. Magic for women is just like movies for women. The movie people target women with their chick flicks, but not all women like them. Some of us like a good action/adventure movie...and there are women out there who like the slasher movies. Margarette
The only stupid question is the one not asked.
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts
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Well magic takes a lot of thought to understand. Many magicians need to use large words, and they can't always use sexiness as their hook......
I must apologize for that, but although it was obviously stupid I knew there would be some who would take it seriously and that made me giggle. Remember Margarette, I'm an idiot that should be ignored always. Really though; The most fun I have ever had with magic has been performing for women. The only problem is women also have more empathy, so when I blow a trick (So rare as to be nearly non existent) I get the sympathy applause. That sucks worse than getting laughed at. "They pity me! Hooray"
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Margarette Special user Memphis area 956 Posts
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On 2008-06-26 00:35, Josh Riel wrote: You're not an idiot....you're just.....misunderstood!! 
The only stupid question is the one not asked.
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts
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On 2008-06-26 14:34, Margarette wrote: Hopefully. |
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