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Pauldela Special user U.K 882 Posts |
What coins do you think are best for the european worker?
Also suggestions if you think a european worker should use American half dollars, just because they're a better shape? Thanks. |
MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
I use different coins dependent of trick. I have some Norwegian gaff coins, but Norwegian coins are for the most very small in size and smooth edge. I have a s****, mag**tic, fol**ng to bottle e.g, but only use them to easy trick when I also borrow coins from spectators.
Personaly I like to use American half dollar and Silver Morgans, because they have better size/grip for me, and better size for the spectators to see them. It is also simply to find many good gaffed coins in USD, e.g. matched set of coins, CFWM, T.Lassen, coingaffs.com, Tango. (Norwegian gaff coins is a rarity ) -Morten- |
Christo Loyal user Cyprus 229 Posts |
The Two Euro coin works well for me...
Chris
"Humpty was pushed!!"
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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 04:57, Christo wrote: What is the diameter on a Two Euro coin? -Morten- |
coinguy Regular user 104 Posts |
25.75 mm is the diameter of a 2 euro coin.
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RachelMilano New user United States 83 Posts |
American Half Dollars and English Pennies are popular here and many G***S are made using these two as well. I don't know the availability of them where you live though.
I'd much rather regret something I've done than something I was too afraid to do. Have a great day. Rachel.
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Fripsmaster New user Holland 33 Posts |
Definitly the 2 euro! I use it all the time in my professional repetoir. Coin rolls, muscle pass, coin flurry, jumbo coin ending etc. And because Holland carries Euro's, the spectators are not suspicious while it is a coin they see all the time!
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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 21:28, coinguy wrote: Okay, thanks. -Morten- |
Pauldela Special user U.K 882 Posts |
Thanks guys, well I will use 2 euros when I'm caught on the spot, but today I went to my 'local' magic shop and got 4 half dollars.
Thanks for the help. |
Simon Bakker Special user the Netherlands 587 Posts |
2 Euro coins? Really?
In most places I work in I will have a serious visibility problem if I use 2 Euro's. Not only are they small, but they don't catch light to well, which makes them not very visible from a distance. And I don't think there is any problem with using 'exotic' coins. Actually, I think this can add to the performance (the coins having special meaning, etc). There are lots of subtle ways to prove that you are using a regular coin. Simon |
iceblade Loyal user 254 Posts |
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On 2008-11-03 18:04, Simon Bakker wrote: I would be very interested if you could share some of your ideas on that... |
MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
I have look at the 2 Euros, and I think they are to small and darks also. I will go for half dollars. In Norway we don't use Euro, so I can like gladly use USD.
-Morten- |
Simon Bakker Special user the Netherlands 587 Posts |
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On 2008-11-03 18:09, iceblade wrote: Well, since you are using a coin that is not gimmicked, it is pretty easy to prove that you are using a regular coin. The point is that you do this subtle. Do not say, "here, examine this coin!" If you do this with your props they are gonna try to find something special all the time, which makes the times that you are using something special extra hard. Just casually hand them the coin and comment on some characteristic of it (real silver, the date on it, where you got the coin, etc.). In this way you're not letting them 'examine' the coin and making them suspicious for no reason. In this way they kinda 'subliminally' agree that the coin is normal. Simon |
Fripsmaster New user Holland 33 Posts |
I don't have that visibility problem. The 'silver' in the 2 euro coin can be seen quite good close-up.
Of course if one does coin magic on stage, I would agree that one should use dollars, due to their size and therefore their visibility. Naturally, you can patter about "this American coin that's from your birth year which was given to you by a friend". However, I prefer little scripting or none whatsoever when it comes down to coin magic. |
Christo Loyal user Cyprus 229 Posts |
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On 2008-11-04 10:09, Fripsmaster wrote: As I said, the Two Euro coin works for me............. Euros happens to be the currency we use in Cyprus, so it makes sense to use it. Nobody ever questions its authenticity. If I used American Dollars or halves, they would certainly question why I am using them and not ORDINARY money so to speak. What reason would I have to do a "Coins Across" or a "Matrix" using Dollars in Cyprus?? Chris
"Humpty was pushed!!"
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patrick66 Veteran user The Netherlands 384 Posts |
I had the same "problem". Whenever I use silver half dollars there is someone who asks if I can do the same effect with euro's. That's why I practice now the same effects with euro coins. Luckily I have two very good 2 euroshells from Kreis magic that just looks like normal ooins.
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Simon Bakker Special user the Netherlands 587 Posts |
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On 2008-11-04 10:46, Christo wrote: It think it boils down to presentation as mentioned earlier. An odd-looking coin which dates back 125 years ago does has some mystery surrounding it. It makes your magic more magical. Maybe the reason why you would use odd-looking coins is because they have odd qualities. Maybe it only works with these coins because they have magical powers, etc, etc... If this is not your thing, by all means use local currency. I think using 'special' coins makes it all a bit more exciting. The fact that they are not gimmicked can be proven (as said earlier as well) in lots of subtle ways. The debate about local vs. foreign currency in coin magic is one that has been discussed to great lenghts. I surely can relate to the arguments for using local currency. But I try to give my coinmagic a little extra by using coins that people have never seen before. Besides that, I think that the size of say a dollar coin not only adds to the visibility aspect, but it is IMHO more magical to vanish or produce something big as opposed to something small(er). The size difference between 2 euros and dollarsize coins is quite big. But then again it is a matter of personal preferences....;-) Simon |
MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
Simon Bakker, you have so absolutely right in your last post. I am agree with you!
Guys, what are you doing if the spectators ask you to do e.g. a cardtrick with a ungaffed deck? (if you use a gaffed of course) eks, Can you please do this trick with MY deck? It's the same problem. -Morten- |
Christo Loyal user Cyprus 229 Posts |
Simon,
I totally agree with you.... From a theatrical point of view, an unusual coin has got to be best. An old Dabloon, or an old Roman Coin etc. far more interesting and fitting when doing a bit of story telling. My point was that if I am out, and happen to have nothing with me, a couple of "borrowed" Euros will work for me. Chris
"Humpty was pushed!!"
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Simon Bakker Special user the Netherlands 587 Posts |
Hi Chris,
I think 'the best' is subjective. Do whatever works for you, to each it's own. When I'm not performing and somebody (on a party or in a pub or something)asks me to show me something (which I almost never do any more) offcourse I use eurocoins. I don't bother to take my special coins everywhere ;-). When working I prefer 'exotic' coins for reasons stated earlier. regards Simon |
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