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MagicByUriel Veteran user Johnathan Townsend has a lot more than 358 Posts |
Here is my rendition of the Vernon/Mendoza routine without the use of combo cups. I'm sorry the video is lacking spectators, but my family has already seen the routine WITH the combo feature (see HERE) and I didn't feel they would react as strongly to it again.
Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b6Un5-nqFk
"Magic is the only art that the audience wants the performer to screw up" - Daniel Garcia
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dcjames Special user 577 Posts |
Good job Uriel!
Looks like someone has been practicing.
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Keith Mitchell Special user 799 Posts |
That was a great show, I liked it.
Did you guys see how dark those cups were? Or was that trick photography? Good job Uriel |
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Uriel,
Great job… looking good!!! Those are still some hot looking Cup. Thanks, I enjoyed watch your presentation, Bruce |
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
Very gOOD!
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pabloinus Inner circle 1683 Posts |
I really like the routine, but besides the sleights of hand I like the presentation, a big change from your beginning. Also in the 3er load you pause with the cup and I thought that pause showed your confidence in what you were doing.
Very nice Pablo |
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MagicByUriel Veteran user Johnathan Townsend has a lot more than 358 Posts |
Thanks guys. And I can't take credit for the beautiful patina on my PF's, it was all the work of Mad Jake.
"Magic is the only art that the audience wants the performer to screw up" - Daniel Garcia
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Lookin pretty sharp there buddy!
Mick |
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
I am going to bring some criticism to the performance. I think the routine will look much better if you can clean up the following:
-You pick up the ball with the left hand put it in the right and then perform a false transfer to the left. This doesn't make any sense and I don't understand how come no one is pointing this out. If in reality you need a ball in your left hand you will do one of this 2 things. You either pick it up with the left hand ( a normal person will do this) or pick it up with the right hand and put it in the left. But it just doesn't fly picking it up with the left to put it in the right to do the false transfer to the left. If you can clean up this repetitive unlogical sequence from your routine then it will be much better, and if you apply this thinking to the rest of your magic, you will be in the right track. |
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professorwhut Inner circle Posts R US sold me 1353 Posts |
Good job overall, I liked it.
After much soul searching about a signature, I decided not to have one.
TG Pop [aka ProfessorWhut] |
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magicorik Loyal user Italia 203 Posts |
Good job!
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
Good routine with a nice presentation. If you don't mind, I'm going to make a couple of suggestions. First, think about where the audience is going to likely want to applaud during the various phases of your routine. Then, allow your patter to slow down and emphasize that point. For instance, when the balls first reappear underneath the cups, slow down the presentation just a bit (to create a little tension) and then say something like, "And they reappear underneat the cups, just like that! Thank you." The audience wants to applaud here. Let them have the chance to do so by building that release into your patter and into your rehearsals.
Second, allow yourself to react to the magic. I believe it was Tommy Wonder who said, "If you treat your magic like nothing, it will be received like nothing." When you take a ball in your hand, waive a wand over it, and make the ball vanish, that's MAGIC. Allow yourself to react like you just did something VERY SPECIAL and the audience will come along for the ride. Third, try to involve the audience a little more in the routine. Audiences don't just want to sit there and watch magic. They want to be active participants in it. This is especially so in a long routine like the cups and balls, where most routines are performed as a demonstration. Admittedly, this is one of the biggest challenges with any cups and balls routine. Finally, take a close look at the staging of your props at the end of your routine. The three large loads almost hide the cups completely. Then, when you produce the fourth load, all of the cups are stacked way off to one side. Why not place each of the green balls on top of each cup and then produce the fourth load from underneath the centre cup? It will give your close up stage a much more balanced look. Again, these suggestions are merely offered as helpful suggestions. I enjoyed watching your routine very much and I thank you for sharing. Kent
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
Now Kent is giving some sound advice. This is much better than just telling him good job. The only way he is going to improve is if we provide feedback. As long as you can provide means for improvement then Uriel is going to benefit from it.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Carlos makes a good point with "You pick up the ball with the left hand put it in the right and then perform a false transfer to the left. This doesn't make any sense and I don't understand how come no one is pointing this out. If in reality you need a ball in your left hand you will do one of this 2 things. You either pick it up with the left hand ( a normal person will do this) or pick it up with the right hand and put it in the left."
This is why I pick a ball up in my left hand and do a French Drop instead of the false transfer. It flows better and makes more sense.
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
Pete,
The thing is that this is a terrible habit picked up from the Vernon performances. I agree that the Professor was a genius...but by no means "perfect" |
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Eddie Torres Special user New York City 692 Posts |
I had that terrible habit of picking up the ball and doing the transfer to the right and then the false transfer to the left. What I finally came up with to justify it is that when you put it in the right hand you put it in that hand to give the audience members to your right a better look at the ball, it then won't look strange that you passed it to your right before the false transfer to the left. This doesn't mean jus say that's why you're doing it on a forum, it means once you pass it to the right you pause, look at the ball, and even point it out by your physicality or patter, then go in for the move.
Eddie Ivan Torres
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MagicByUriel Veteran user Johnathan Townsend has a lot more than 358 Posts |
Thanks for all the advice guys!
The reason I do the left, right, left transfer is precisely what Eddie said. In a real performance atmosphere I would have people on my right and left. So I first show the people on the left the ball, then the people on the right and I put the ball back into my left hand because I NEED to. Why? Because my wand is on my right and I need to "free up" my hand to pick it up. So naturally I would put it into my left hand. I didn't think of this on my own, it comes from something Dave V wrote up on CupsCon - http://www.cupscon.com/index.php?topic=26.0 . Kent, thanks for all the great advice. I always thought making the yellow ball appear from there was a startling revelation, but I guess it wouldn't make a difference how the cups are positioned when it's produced; especially if it effects the final mental picture. Thanks again guys!
"Magic is the only art that the audience wants the performer to screw up" - Daniel Garcia
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Keith Mitchell Special user 799 Posts |
I was glad to see that Uriel did not spin the wand, this is something that I am having a hard time with. It would be nice to see how other people use the wand, and I mean without the spinning part. Even with card magic, not all card magicians are using XCM and probably not a good idea to do so.
Not yet ready to bang my expensive cups with a stick. I do feel the Wand should be seen as something magical and not just a prop to be used for Misdirection technique. The issue of picking up the ball with LH and false transfer is something that I would have not noticed myself until Carlos and Pete mentioned it. Sometimes when I read routines in books they always tell you which hand to use with the ball and which hand to pick up the cups, but fail to mention a better way to do sleight of hand. I am glad that Carlos and Pete pointed this out and I will have to pay more attention to what I see and read in the future. Thanks to Uriel and all the great advices pointed out here. |
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
Madkiki,
The problem is exactly that. We take things for granted because we read them in a book or because mighty Vernon did it in his sequence without giving to much thinking. Also from a book I read learn the sleight and compare the action with a real one. If you need to take a ball to put it in a pocket then you will use the shortest route if you were to do it for real. In your routine you can do whatever you want with it, but in my humble opinion saying that you are going to show the ball that is been in full view during the previous phases of the routine to the spectators on the left and on the right, and doing the same thing several times is just smoke to cover a bad habit. If you go to youtube and do a search on Vernon doing the routine you will see he did it all the time...and without spectators in both sides. I think is been rubbing off from him to a lot of people. |
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rickmagic1 Inner circle MIddle Tennessee area 1544 Posts |
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On 2009-02-15 10:54, Carlos Hampton wrote: I have been guilty of doing the exact same thing simply because that's how I learned it! I recently picked up a copy of Michael Vincent's "Evolution of a Classic", which is his DVD on how he came to be using the version of the C&B that he currently performs. In his handling, he doesn't use that "back and forth" handling of the ball, which is really a weak justification for using the move that Uriel and I (until recently) used. One idea to maybe think about: why did you change hands with the ball? I am now using, for just one of the balls, the excuse of pulling up my sleeves. It justifies the move without saying anything. I'd suggest taking a look at Michael's handling to see what I'm talking about for the other parts. He actually places the ball into the hand, and it vanishes from that hand! Just my two cents worth... Rick
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