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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
This morning in bed, before really awaking completely, I was fantasizing about getting myself a card under glass routine, as one does. Or a card under coffee mug or cigarette packet or whatever object that happens to be there. Both of the ways I thought of doing it most easily had the card end up face up simply because it was palmed to end up that way.
But I think face down would be a bit better. I like Hitchcock too and also I think it would be great if everything would suddenly come to an abrupt silent halt for a second or two while everyone fasten their eyes on the card laying there, as has been suggested by several people already. Then a slow reveal. Now I have to remember where I saw a good explanation of the rhythm of which hand moves first and stuff like that in this sort of context. I've ignored all routines like this before as palming has been science fiction to me earlier. But it no longer is.
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JustinVisible Elite user South Jersey/Philadelphia Areas 453 Posts |
I think that Noobini makes a valid point in that it all depends on what method you use for palming off said selected card. For me, it is always face down because I use a one-handed top palm under the guise of their card being "lost" in the deck or somewhere else. Just the mechanics of natural motion, cause the card to end this way. Also, the 2 count helps to make the effect that much more entertaining and unbelievable when it happens over and over again.
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Carducci Special user Denver 543 Posts |
I think it depends on your goals. I do my card-under-glass routine early on in my set, so I go for the shock in the first phase. The first phase really happens out of nowhere. My routine would lose a lot in that first phase without the hit of the card being right in front of them. Subsequent phases work well with suspense "could it be there again?"
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Terry Veckey Regular user Medford, Or. U.S.A. 140 Posts |
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On 2009-04-16 12:37, Magiguy wrote: Sorry, but if I don't point this out, no one will. The Schuliens didn't tie the two revelations together. I did. I first routined some revelations together finishing with the card under glass at the tables at the New york Lounge (no tablecloths). Started ending my routine with card under tablecloth at Lancers. When I worked at Schuliens I didn't do any of them because they were Charlies and later Bobby's. I was frankly rather surprised that I was the only one that had tied the Schulien revelations together into a routine. Thanks. Terry Veckey
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
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On 2009-04-20 16:29, Terry Veckey wrote: Terry, Since you know about the Schuliens, you are aware that Matt wasn't following most strictly a preset act (the least to say). Thus it seems difficult to me to state categorically that he didn't link the two effects, even if they are not related in the Willmarth's book about him. The link seems pretty obvious to me and Matt had no creativity problems...
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Terry Veckey Regular user Medford, Or. U.S.A. 140 Posts |
Hello Lawrence O.
Right on. I do know about the Schuliens and that Matt "wasn't following most strictly a preset act (the least to say)." Neither did Charlie I think Bobby tried a little. I guess I should have said "I was frankly rather surprised that I was the only one that had CONSISTANTLY tied the Schulien revelations together into a routine. Check with Phil. I believe he will back me up. Actually, to say they wern't following a preset act isn't exactlly accurate. "Free flowing" is probably better. Have a great day! Terry Veckey
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Christo Loyal user Cyprus 229 Posts |
Got to agree with mattm on this one.
Doc (the master) Eason kept a group of us going all night in a bar at the Blackpool Convention a few years back, just when you thought it was over, there was that ***ed card again, under the glass!! Face down may I add. Chris
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
I suppose it depends on whether you are bottom plaming the card or top palming it.
For a finale to this routine, I have used an effect of Vanni Bossi's where the card ends up inside the glass as the glass is run over the ribbon spread deck. This effect can be found on the Steven's Magic of Italy video.
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Scott Fridinger Special user Gloucester Pt, VA 893 Posts |
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On 2009-04-16 12:15, Dynamike wrote: Well, if it was face up I would say there would be NO suspense!
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
BTW, I have also used another ploy with this routine that I cannot believe I get away with. It is similar to the repeat card in pocket move, where an extra card is palmed and as you pretend to pick up the card that was under the glass, you simply push the palmed card into view and place it in the deck, setting the glass right back on top of the selection. With proper audeince management and direction, it flies right by unnoticed. Takes some chutzpa to do it, though--definitely not for the timid.
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dedikc Veteran user France (Lyon) 340 Posts |
It depends how you build your routine.
In my routine The first card under the glass is face down, because the effect is so strong. And I want to anchor that the card under the glass is the sign card. To do that I find that the card face down and you turn to reveal the card works great. You turn the card and replace face up under the glass. In the second effect, a card appear under the glass face down. For the laymen there is no doubt that the card is a wrong card because of the first effect. In the last effect, the card appear folded in the spectator glass (an unused glass!!) |
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