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wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts |
I address one method in my manuscript Coin, from Bill. Here's the short form:
After thanking them for their time, act as if you were leaving and then decide to show them one more trick, which requires that you borrow a bill. Promise the loaner that he'll get it back undamaged, because you're "not one of those guys..." This encourages him to keep his wallet out. Now do a quick and hopefully magical effect with the bill, and return it, thanking him. The psychology of the moment plays like this: His wallet is out, during the trick so he has time and a reason to think about tipping, and since his wallet is out he doesn’t have that awkward moment where you’re standing there as he fishes it out of his pocket. He’s just looked in his wallet so he knows how much cash he has on him, and can decide how much he can afford to give you, and he has time make the decision while you’re doing the trick. Do nothing to suggest he should tip; just make it easy for him to do so… If you’ve earned it, and he’s the sort of person who wants to tip he will. |
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jmccormack4 New user 26 Posts |
I watched Jay Sankeys Real work on restaurants, and in his section on tips I was a little confused. when someone gives you a big tip what are you supposed to do?
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
Thank them graciously and judge if they want to see one more or not. Many times, your time is over. In my eyes once you've received a big tip the table has thanked you for your time there and if you stick around it seems like you want more. If they're really into it, I say, I'll tell you what I'll do one more...one of my personal favorites.
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
When you approach a table, you have a small purse or other receptacle that has "TIPS" written in bold on it. Be putting some money in it and put away the purse and mumble something like "That was a very generous table. I'm glad they appreciate and support artists".
Now they know you expect to be tipped. IF they aren't tippers, they will say no thanks to seeing magic and it will save you the bother of performing for dead beats. If allot of tables pass on seeing magic, you may have a clientele problem. Change your patter to "they didn't care to see magic tonight, but they tipped me anyway because the appreciate and support artists". Now they know that it's best to see the magic, because you expect to be tipped either way. Other patter could be "the last table that didn't want to see magic found gum and hair in their food". This lets them know that it is in their interest to see magic and to tip. Work at as many restaurants as you can because you will be fired often for using any of these techniques, but you'll be educating the public on what is expected from them.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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magicsoup Elite user 461 Posts |
Thank God you put in that last line Christopher! I think hustling tips is bad form. I want to make people feel comfortable when they meet me. Hinting about tips is not how you do that. If people feel pressured about tipping they won't want to watch you. Of course busking is a completely different story. Then ramming hint suggestions down their throats is part of the fun!
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ray raymond Veteran user 329 Posts |
Borrowing money is enough to subbliminally sugguest tips without saying a word. The best advice I could give even beyond what I typed previously ( by the way that way you don't have to say a word about tips, but it is not always able to be done), but read close-up magic by david stone. there he has plenty of subtle ways without saying a word to hint at it.
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts |
Be professional and deliver a Good and Entertaining show. If there are tips out there, then they will come.
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joshsmagic Regular user Chicago 189 Posts |
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On 2009-07-06 00:21, wsduncan wrote: Thank you duncan, that helps |
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joshsmagic Regular user Chicago 189 Posts |
Thanks everyone, these all help me out a lot
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Eddie Torres Special user New York City 692 Posts |
I used to mention tips every time I hit up a table and I used to do well, an average of $200+ every night in tips, the only thing was that I wasn't getting any gigs outside the restaurant. I stopped mentioning tips and now I don't do as well at the restaurant, an average of about $75-$100 a night, but now I do manage to get a lot of gigs from people who've seen me perform there. Just something to keep in mind.
Eddie
Eddie Ivan Torres
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Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts |
A few years ago when I was first really getting into table hopping I used to do "A Rose is a Rose" vanishing silk routine from "The Movie" by the Flicking Fingers. When I took out the coin purse with silk in it I would look into the coin purse and say "You could see how much money a magician makes." At first I started doing it as a simple joke, but then I realized it could help me get some tips. So I started emphasizing it a bit more.
Finally some 17ish year olds who looked about my age gave me a tip at the end of my act. I declined and said it wasn't necessary since I knew they probably were just as poor as I was. And the kid looked at me and said, "well since you're so poor with that purse you could really use it." It really just made me feel like a d**k and that I had lost sight of giving a good performance. Had I focused on just doing a good show I probably would have gotten me a tip even easier without the whole guilt trip. A friend of mine told me today about a train he took to the grand canyon that had a fake train robbery with men on horses and handlebar mustaches. He said it was fun and all but when they got on the train they were more focused on getting tips and tipping their hats. He said it made it more uncomfortable than fun and more of a expected tipping situation instead of a deserved one. I thought maybe they had fake money bags that said TIP$ on it, but they weren't even that clever. Street busking is an entirely different venue but Gazzo has some great tips on what constitutes a good way to educate an audience about tips. A bar is another place I haven't worked but since tips are a regular thing to give to a bartender then the situation might be better to suggest for a tip since you are providing more than one service. So the point is no matter how much tips are wanted and/or needed, there's no replacing a happy person who wouldn't want to do anything other than force money into your hand because they enjoyed your act so much. Ever since I stopped suggesting tips so much I've been more personable when I perform which gets tips, or at least gets a person happy enough for me to give my card and suggest they give me a call for a show. And that, in the end, brings more money than any tip. |
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