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asgar Elite user 409 Posts |
Billiard ball was my first magic stuff that I could show in stage. I love this very much. Anyway, I saw many videos of billiard ball manipulation and this guy is simply the best. Such a smooth manipulator must be very famous. So who's he? Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YSLZ_H_N0Q Another thing is, did Cardini use any gimmick balls?, because I only saw his one ball routine.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Have you read the Cardini Book or Levent's Billiard Ball DVD that discirbes Cardini's BB act in full?
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Larry Conger New user 13 Posts |
I don't know who he the fellow is you posted the link to, but am glad to see someone bring him up. I was also very impressed when I saw his performance.
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
He looks Japanese to me and based on the audience reactions I believe he is performing at one of the Japanese Magic club event.
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Magic1man New user 87 Posts |
An obviously very skilled performer but I didn’t like the pace of the routine. Too much happening too fast! I think a slower pace would look more magical and let the audience enjoy the magical effects that were happening! Looked to much like juggling to me.
Wmhegbli, asgar has clearly not read your referenced sources or he would not of asked a question he new the answer to. |
Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2733 Posts |
Asgar:
Thanks for posting that; I enjoyed it very much! Ron |
chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
His moves a good -- BUT --- why?
What is the magic in watching someone just move balls in space multiplying, decreasing in number, movong hand to hand. Sure it is a skill -- but jugglers are skilled -- and without "drama" or purpose -- as perceived by an audience -- it can turn into a session of watching Olympic gymnastics required moves -- over and over. Like a painting -- a skilled craftsman (and this fellow is) can make all the moves -- but needs the motivation and creativity to turn them from mere demonstration to a masterpiece. P.S. - I do not even have this type of skill to contemplate making billiard balls movres into a masterpiece or adding character and personality to this type of work.
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
This seems to be a trend with those 'next generation' magicians. They want to show-off their skills and not the magic.
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lebowski Veteran user 377 Posts |
Occasionally things are beautiful to watch without any deeper meaning.
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
For the lay person I don't think it matters so much if it's magical or has a theme or whether its more juggeling than magic, etc. If they are entertained and feel they got their money's worth it's all good.
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Magic1man New user 87 Posts |
Its all Good? I have to disagree! Please compare the Cardini ball routine to most other routines on you tube. It is clear that it is not “All Good” Lay Audiences definitely can perceive the difference from a great act and a good act.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Yes, Norbert has a great ball act. I heard he won in the previous FISM, is it true?
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
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On 2009-11-16 20:59, Magic1man wrote: Well sure a lay audience would be able to differentiate between a superb act and a hack. That wasn’t my point but I do agree with you. But If someone bills himself as a magician and they do more card juggling and demonstrates manipulative skill more so than magic,as long as it’s well done, no one is going to complain or want their money back. Farrell Dillon’s act comes to mind. A lot of cool manipulations that really wasn’t magic but I sure enjoyed watching it while being very envious. |
alibaba Loyal user Hawaii 280 Posts |
I'm as real as you think I am
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Salvano's multiplying billiard balls routine is really nice and a lot of thoughts has been put into the routine.
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ohiomagic New user 60 Posts |
This one is nice , kinda classy I guess. I found this one a year or so ago. I like it a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY-_fCSSsiQ |
ohiomagic New user 60 Posts |
Sorry my last post did not answer the original question but I saw others sharing so I thought I would put my two cents in.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
There is a small difference between a manipulator and a magician who uses manipulation to create a magic effect.
A true manipulator is nothing more then a show-off. That is not meant in a bad way. |
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