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Lawrence O
Inner circle
French Riviera
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Posted: Jan 19, 2010 03:33 am
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Can you be more specific? If you are referring to the empty take from a fistful of coins, it was already in Ponsin...
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Lawrence O
Inner circle
French Riviera
6811 Posts
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Posted: Jan 19, 2010 04:05 am
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There are so man solutions to the question in this thread, that it's just a headache. However a practical solution rarely investigated is the Harada Hold.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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lunatik
Inner circle
3222 Posts
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Posted: Jan 19, 2010 05:52 am
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Workeroo/Silent Butler!!!!
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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ziggystarsane
New user
Melbourne - Australia
92 Posts
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Posted: Jan 20, 2010 01:30 am
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Quote: On 2009-12-19 21:33, funsway wrote:
Before I grew whiskers I was told, "the easiest coin to vanish is the one that never was." Look into ways to get "one behind" such that the audience thinks you have another coin (or any object)at the end than you actually do. Poof!
I agree with this, I also think that you have to look at each routine carefully along with other factors such as - are your performing standing, sitting, jacket on/off? before deciding on the best solution.
I personally am not a fan of using utility devices for this purpose as I really don't deem them necessary when there are so many effective ways of achieving the same thing through sleight of hand.
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allen_m
Veteran user
Alpine, TX
349 Posts
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Posted: Jan 20, 2010 02:24 am
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Quote: On 2010-01-18 23:05, Lawrence O wrote:
There are so man solutions to the question in this thread, that it's just a headache. However a practical solution rarely investigated is the Harada Hold.
Can someone point me to a source for learning the Harada Hold? I see a DVD available- is there not a printed source as well?
TIA,
-A
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Bambu
Elite user
California
498 Posts
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Posted: Jan 20, 2010 03:06 am
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Quote: On 2010-01-19 21:24, allen_m wrote:
Quote: On 2010-01-18 23:05, Lawrence O wrote:
There are so man solutions to the question in this thread, that it's just a headache. However a practical solution rarely investigated is the Harada Hold.
Can someone point me to a source for learning the Harada Hold? I see a DVD available- is there not a printed source as well?
You can learn this slight in Sankey's Revolutionary Coin Magic 2.0 as Messiah Clean Up DVD
TIA,
-A
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aitchy
Loyal user
222 Posts
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Posted: Jan 20, 2010 04:20 pm
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Just topit! -
David Penn has a great reverse ditch that is slick
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dduane
Special user
Bridgewater, MA
784 Posts
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Posted: Jan 23, 2010 03:27 am
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IMO - Jeff Kaylor's TKO is perfect for ditching gaffs.
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Eric Johnson
Regular user
102 Posts
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Posted: Jan 23, 2010 03:40 am
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I second the TKO if you are wearing a button down shirt!No jacket required!!
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charliewerner
Regular user
164 Posts
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Posted: May 30, 2010 12:15 am
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How about the basic elbow vanish? or using muscles pass taught by shoot ogawa in his dvd.
"Seeing Joy, Sadness, Anger,Contempt,Surprise, Disgust,Fear on people faces are the motivation of my MAGIC" Charlie Werner (C.C.L)
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
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Posted: May 30, 2010 12:44 am
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Quote: On 2010-01-19 00:52, lunatik wrote:
Workeroo/Silent Butler!!!!
Dude! STFU!
You want these guys making a mess of that the way they have done with the Ramsay Subtlty?
You want the next cliche of "up his sleeve" to be ***?
BTW you can get very subtle with a Platt Blackout when you have a black coin purse in reach next to your rest position. Kind of a holdout in plain sight on the table.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Tryllejakob
New user
Denmark
51 Posts
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Posted: May 30, 2010 12:28 pm
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This thread is a great collection of total vanishes with some totally cool tips.
I will just add mine and then start to study all the gold you are coming up with.
Use a total wanish where the coin ends under your watch.
Josh Jay and Eiwin Løvig (from Norway) has some nice Book/DVD on the subject.
Othervise make a false transfer and produce a coin from your pocket and then do the total vanish. How Easy, when you are in the pocket, drop the real coin and bring out a matching coin that has a pull attach to it.
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J-Mac
Inner circle
Ridley Park, PA
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Posted: May 30, 2010 10:18 pm
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BTW you can get very subtle with a Platt Blackout when you have a black coin purse in reach next to your rest position. Kind of a holdout in plain sight on the table.
Man, that is bold!
Jim
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ftlum
Special user
Roseville, CA
730 Posts
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Posted: Jun 1, 2010 12:33 am
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Quote: On 2010-01-08 23:59, Lawrence O wrote:
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Spider Grip vanish + Bob Kohler's quick Clean Up (or Tim Feher's Clean Up both don't look like Hand Washing)
What's the Clean Up being referred to here? Where would I reference both of these moves?
To the OP: I am partial to the Melt vanish from Homer Liwag's Coin One. You just about show both hands empty as the vanish happens. If I really need to be clean, I've got a Workeroo I can use (and now a TKO for less formal attire).
- Frank
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Jonathan Townsend
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
27297 Posts
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Posted: Jun 1, 2010 01:21 am
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Start by going back to something in Bobo's that works when you have a jacket on - something that does not use your sleeves. Bob has refined that item into something surprisingly effective.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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streetcoin
Regular user
117 Posts
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Posted: Jun 1, 2010 05:54 pm
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I ditch it by doing a card matrix as finisher.
You just do your magic with for example coins, you keep one behind and reach into your pocket to get four cards. Spread them and do a card matrix. The audience always think you use an extra coin for that matrix. but for a card matrix, you don't need it. Very stunning because they always think you use 5 coins and when it turned out to be 4 coins in the end, they're convinced they only were 4 coins the whole presentation
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Jonathan Brown
Loyal user
Tappahannock, VA
288 Posts
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Posted: Jun 1, 2010 07:25 pm
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Eric Jones has some great stuff using the back of the hand as a hold out...gone, but not forgotten eh'? Convincing without doing something that seems unnatural after a routine using strict sleight of hand.
Jonathan
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arizona
New user
87 Posts
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Posted: Jun 4, 2010 06:39 am
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Vanish two coins go for the wand and ditch a coin then spider vansh the last coin strike the empty hand with the wand and put your wand away along with the coin of course. The watch vanish is good too.
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Lawrence O
Inner circle
French Riviera
6811 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2010 06:53 am
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Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Bill Hallahan
Inner circle
New Hampshire
3222 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2010 03:04 pm
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