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shanehillman New user 51 Posts |
I really liked this performance. I have never heard of him, but he has a lot of talent at putting together his routine. A few moves need some work, but I loved the performance. Enjoy.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I do not like this presentation after the 1st 40 seconds. The title is not correct, as he does not know how to depict a drunk person at all. It should really be titled Look What I Can do.
He is not in character, and does not have smooth transitions at all. His bowing shows he wants gratification for every little movement he makes. And that was just the 1st 40 seconds worth. |
Signor Blitz Elite user 419 Posts |
I have to agree - - I think he is drunk, not a sober person playing the part of a drunk.
What ever happen to doing a pure and clean manipulation act that is both entertaining and magical in nature? WMHEGBLI - I gotta ask, I see Chavez 1975 - did you take it in CA with Marion? |
Signor Blitz Elite user 419 Posts |
In other words - I would love to hear about your Chavez experience. You can PM me if you want.
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Oliver Ross Inner circle Europe 1724 Posts |
Wmhegbli is right.
He's asking a lot for applaus during his act, nearly for everything he does. I've watch the whole act and even if there are a few nice ideas he's not in character. You can't be drunk and juggle with glasses and bottles. That's one of the main things he needs to work on. If someone want's to see an excellent actor playing a drunk guy, check out the little theatrical piece "Dinner for One" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1v4BYV-YvA Oliver. |
ufo Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 1185 Posts |
Simon Drake has a routine on "Secret Cabaret" videos in which the magi continues to produce and ingest drinks to the point of passing out. Its well done.
"What's your drug?" she asked. "Hope" he said, "The most addicting one of all."
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Jeffrey Korst New user SF Bay Area 92 Posts |
He does have some nice moments in this. I do like some of the bottle productions for example.
The big one at the end, he has rigged to shoot confetti. I toyed with a similar idea. For me it came down to the question of do I want them to think it's a real bottle. I decided the confetti shooting out would tell everyone it's a fake and therefore might collapse or expand or be plastic, etc. Tough choice, though. If he is intending all the little head bow/nods as applause cues, he's sure not taking advantage of it. If you're going to cue applause that way, you've got to stop and hold the pose or in some other way give them time to respond. If you barrel right on, you kill whatever might be coming. Overall, he gets surprising little response from the audience. I'm curious to know full the house was. It's a pretty big room for that smattering of response. |
Jeffrey Korst New user SF Bay Area 92 Posts |
Just in case it's not clear, I was referring to Yurgen, the original topic.
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yurgen New user France 4 Posts |
Thanks for your comments, which will certainly help me to improve.
The actual bowing for applause is on purpose to show a certain classic magician doing classic stuff in a very classic manner. Then the magician is interested in drinking and almost becomes a victim of his magic. That was my initial idea. I know I need to do a great job on acting drunk. This act was shot in a theatre in Santiago de Compostelle, Spain, half full with school kids. Normally I get better response with a family audience than kids only. Well thanks again for all the comments. Best regards Yurgen |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Yurgen, may I suggest if you want to continue this theme, that you work on your acting, a drunk, is glazed eyed, his feet is constantly trying to keep him from falling over, his senses are numb and thus takes longer to react to things and see things clearly.
This is something I would not act like in front of an audience of children. It is just not proper behavior. Additionally, you have to analyze your effects, such as a ball move is not a large thing of wonder as a finale of 4 balls displayed between the fingers. Just continue your actions, then pause at the end of a routine. Stop, realize the audience liked it, gesture with your arms for a moment, then if you want the drunk thing, start to fall while the audience is applauding start to fall over, but catch with a stumble. |
magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Don't act drunk. Cardini invented it. He might be the greatest of all time. The drunk bit is his.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
If you did not hear Cardini is deceased, and he did not take the drunk concept to the grave with him.
Romaine in Canada has been doing a drunk manipulation act for many years now. I think once a magician is deceased, that relinquishes the concept. If you go by that, no one would be able to do any magic at all, as everything is built on what has been done in the past. |
yurgen New user France 4 Posts |
I appreciate critics as much and even more, than applause, when coming from fellow magicians.
MC Rooney was a great "drunk Magician" too. More of a comic than a magician. Well, Cardini is the first magician to be known to act drunk, and his character doesn't play it for audience. It's more like a short movie of a tipsy magician being victim of the alcohol and his own magic. Chaplin also acted drunk, and nobody said that he shouldn't have done it for kids. Kids know it's a character and also know it's not good behavior, and still they laugh. I'm certainly not Cardini, nor Chaplin. I didn't even try to copy. It's certainly not easy acting sober and becoming drunk in only a few minutes, and to end with something happy, and not degrading. If anyone has other examples videos to show, I would like too see. I wanted to avoid bottle productions where the magician never touches a drop. That's more like a "see what I can produce" attitude. I also like combining other moves, like the flair bottle juggling, which is very modern, even though presented in old fashion clothes & music. My hat moves also need improvement, and the jacket thing can be more exploited. I recently discovered George Carl on you tube. Believing I invented anything would be stupid, even though I found my moves on my own, before I saw Cardini or George Carl. Wmhegbli , you seem to be a very experienced magician, where can I see some of your magic? And Jefrey Korst, I would also like to see your magic. Not for criticizing, but to discover your way of doing this art..Is that possible? |
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