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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
No. Just want to be amazed at Magic Shows, that's all.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9987 Posts |
Yup Pakar, I feel that being involved in performance magic should increase ones ability to find amazement and astonishment, never deminish it. My early involvement with magic has affected everything I have done in life -- including a realization that I do not have to control things in order to enjoy and appreciate them.
OK, Jonathan, I'll play -- why do you make a distinction between the "mundane universe" and the one in which magician's live? One's World View might be changed by performance magic, being an entertainer, philosopher, etc. -- but what they have is "their universe" -- and there is only one. In my Universe I choose to find awe and wonder in everything. You seem to choose not to -- which is why I asked the question above (not answered). Maybe there is a good reason for making such a choice (not to be amazed and performance magic) -- I'm just curious as to why you made that chocie.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts |
Funsway, also don't see the dichotomy between being a fairly knowledgeable magician and being able to be taken along by a trick in performance. To be blunt, unless the performer "breaks the spell" - I'm just as likely to attend using mugglevision as the non-magician sitting next to me. As to whether they act in such a way that engages my "puzzle solving" mode of thinking - again that's on the performer rather than the work performed. Now if they take out obvious magic-shop props, handle them like fragile mechanical contrivances then do things which appear to demonstrate that the props are most likely fragile mechanical items designed to do what was just demonstrated - again I put that lack of foresight on the performer.
IMHO the effect where stuff moves in one particular direction when let go seems more amazing than most things I've seen magicians do. No threads. No wires. No magnets. Borrowed items. Wave your hands around them before, during and after - somehow the stuff just seems to go 'that way' whether you or it wants them to or not.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9987 Posts |
Great - that's the kind of insight I can appreciate, and I heartily agree with the last paragraph and most of the first. I do like the idea that it is the performer's responsibility to insure that the spell is not broken.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Acecardician Inner circle New Orleans 1390 Posts |
I LOVE magic too much to quit! I'm in it until the "day I die"!
I'm going to the SAM Atlanta convention tomorrow, and I feel giddy, like I did when I went to my first magic convention in DC in the 70's! I can't wait! I'm going to suspend any disbelief I have and be amazed and have fun! I enjoy great presentations and personalities! That is what is most amazing, not just secrets! I remember seeing performances that bring tears of joy to my eyes! ACE
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts |
I can play the guitar, the banjo, the piano and several other instruments. But it doesn't keep me from enjoying the experience of hearing any of these instruments played by any artist who can give me pleasure when I hear them played well.
The same is true for magic. I can go to a magic show and watch the show with wonder. I'll admit that sometimes I "wonder" why certain magicians seem to repeat the same trick throughout their show. But that's another subject. Give up magic? No.
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panlives Inner circle 2087 Posts |
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On 2010-06-03 22:37, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Beautiful post. Finding the wonder in an effect, scripting it so the wonder implicit in the effect makes an impression on the spectator; and ultimately tying it in to the great wonder of “What Is”…this can be the foundation of a great magical experience. There is (or can be) a confluence of magic and an expression of the Universe as a cosmic, numinous mystery. The great essayist, Loren Eiseley, in his chosen discipline as a naturalist and writer, was able to communicate this interpenetration of (so-called) ordinary life and (so-called) natural phenomena. Read his essay, “The Star Thrower” and see how a simple walk on the beach can become a portal to a world of ineffable mystery and human pathos grounded in the “here and now” – the mundane. Mr. Townsend is on to something terrifyingly profound here…we should pay close attention to him when he writes on this topic.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
I guess I'm just like the goldfish that Ani Difranco sings about in
"Little plastic castles" "Goldfish have no memories I guess their lives are just like mine and the little plastic castle is a surprise every time"
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts |
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panlives Inner circle 2087 Posts |
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On 2010-07-13 17:26, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Mr. Townsend, You are one of the towering intellects in the Café...your reply reminds me of a quote I heard in an old "Star Trek" episode: "The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play.”
"Is there any point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
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Acecardician Inner circle New Orleans 1390 Posts |
I hit the nail on the head today, I did an event. It was a Garden District ladies club Christmas party for their kids, and they said how much they laughed, as much as the kids, and how they always enjoy me( the 4th year).
Anyway, I said, this keeps me from having to grow up! And they said, then you have the perfect job for that! Also: when I was younger and knew very little, I thought I knew everything. Now that I am older and know a ton of a lot more, I realize I know very little. Also, when I buy magic, I don't look at it like how I am going to fool myself or another magician, but the reaction I can get from a lay audience. ACE
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