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Dai Hard Regular user 138 Posts 
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And why can't I find it with a search? Oh well. Surely everyone here but me knows.....
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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You mean one-armed MacDonald as discussed in the Vernon book - or the basic card assembly using gaffs - Hofzinser?
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On 2010-07-16 18:25, Dai Hard wrote: Perhaps a search in the right place would help. Jonathan has give you the keys. The sum total of human knowledge is not necessarily on the internet.
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Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts
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The method for the ace assembly known as MacDonald's Aces, is the invention of Johann Nepomuk Hofzinser. Hofzinser's routine "Powers of Faith" used gaffed kings (all four of them) instead of aces. There was no leader packet. Even the one-handed vanish as described in Dai Vernon's More Inner Secrets of Card Magic goes back to Hofzinser.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Who's the guy who put down the Ace of Spades and called it the "Master Ace" in this context?
@Uli, Isn't it remarkable to have ones choice of Kings? 
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts
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After a great deal of research, I have concluded that the inventor of this thing was, indeed, MacDonald. He was involved in agriculture. He lived just outside of Tulsa, Oklahoma. He lost his arm in an accident with a cotton picker. The cotton picker was pretty badly beat up, as well.
Mac Donald, in later years, became the president of an Oklahoma agricultural society called the Evangelical Independent Earsuckers Inside Oklahoma, known mainly by their acronym.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Bill, what specifically are you asserting that Mac Donald developed which was novel to what Hofzinser had done a century before?
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Jon Hackett Special user UK 737 Posts
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That was truly great Bill!
Was it Ronald? JH
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts
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Bill,
You made me laugh with that one! Steve |
Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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Bill, That was great!
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts
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I think Jonathan missed the acronym.
Maybe I should help him. Evangelical Independent Earsuckers Inside Oklahoma
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Jonathan does not appreciate someone attempting humor by planting bogons while most of their audience has yet to read the actual source material in question. Jonathan saw the post and continues to wonder whether it will be cited as authoritative.
Makes me wish the farm in that book was named McDonald's Farm rather then Manor Farm.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts
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It must be really dark in there, Jonathan.
Remember the citation in The Art of Magic about the best source of magcian's wax?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Bill, folks, this is the Magic Café, not an episode of Ren and Stimpy.
Just in case you might have forgotten, the term bogons is about the internet and is relevant to this context in the same way as it was used in Stephenson's book Anathem - specious data. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Anonymous So, did Mac Donald use Jacks like the mythical Hofzinser? is it true we got the word 'humdinger' as indirect referent to that supposed Viennese conjurer?
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts
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I sold hundreds of Pringle Aces long before I ever heard of the Million Dollar Aces.
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