On 2010-08-09 11:24, Cyberqat wrote:
According to sociologists, the more someone tries to convince others of their views, the weaker those views are and the more they are really trying to convince themselves.

On 2010-08-09 12:07, S2000magician wrote:

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On 2010-08-09 11:24, Cyberqat wrote:
According to sociologists, the more someone tries to convince others of their views, the weaker those views are and the more they are really trying to convince themselves.

Universally, or just on average?

Sociologists are, by the way, a funny bunch.

On 2010-08-09 07:11, Chance wrote:

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On 2010-08-08 23:14, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2010-08-08 22:42, Chance wrote:
So does America, but that doesn't stop you right wing nutjobs from spouting off every other day...

It speaks volumes about your own politics that I come of as a "right wing nutjob" to you. I'm a registered independent who voted for Clinton twice. I'm pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, vegan, and I do extensive pro bono legal work at inner city clinics for an immigration clinic and a disability rights center for low-moderate income people.

Although, despite your accusations, I have never called you a socialist, I can certainly see how someone might; when moderates come off as right wing nutjobs, it's time to do a status check of your own. My conservative friends would be quite amused at this characterization.

When a simple desire to see existing, well-established federal law enforced gets a person labeled a nutjob, the barometer reading is clear. You're the nutjob on the wing.

Then all you have to do in order to stop the confusion is to stop acting like one. In a perfectly harmless thread that has nothing to do with imigration, you are the one who comes out with a snark about trading citizenship. Like, "Well, if you like it so much over there, then why don't you try to imigrate?", etc. And that snark was what I was responding to. It doesn't matter what your politics are, it matters how you treat people. The words you use matter even more.

On 2010-08-09 14:03, Cyberqat wrote:

Its amazing how much of adult human experience is driven by what we learn as a child.

On 2010-08-09 14:03, Cyberqat wrote:
Lol Sociology is, by definition, about statistical averages.

On 2010-08-09 14:13, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2010-08-09 14:03, Cyberqat wrote:

Its amazing how much of adult human experience is driven by what we learn as a child.

I agree, not only with respect to the patterns and fears that you're describing, but also with respect to the general philosophical framework that underlies the way we filter our experiences and new knowledge. Recognizing this doesn't solve it, per se, but given that we all have philosophical and psychological imports, it can be very helpful to at least try to be aware of them and meta-think accordingly.

On 2010-08-09 17:07, Cyberqat wrote:

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On 2010-08-09 14:13, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On 2010-08-09 14:03, Cyberqat wrote:

Its amazing how much of adult human experience is driven by what we learn as a child.

I agree, not only with respect to the patterns and fears that you're describing, but also with respect to the general philosophical framework that underlies the way we filter our experiences and new knowledge. Recognizing this doesn't solve it, per se, but given that we all have philosophical and psychological imports, it can be very helpful to at least try to be aware of them and meta-think accordingly.

Heh. Periodically we are in violent agreement, you and I.