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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
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On 2010-11-05 11:02, Mb217 wrote: Yes I believe so, that's why I began my initial post here with this.
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Thanks for the pic Jazzy!
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
Like it or not, television is here too stay and we should have a good understanding of it in order to look our best. It opens the door to larger audiences for close-up performers. Just a camera and projector would change everything. Anyone who aspires to the upper echelons of magic needs to know basic editing, CGI, etc. in addition to stagecraft.
Just KEEPING UP with the technology is a full time job. How many of us would dare to perform in Hi Def on a 60 inch screen? Who knows what the future holds. Those 3-D table top holograms from Star Wars aren't so far off. When that happens, we're all doomed. Senor Wences didn't need no CGI. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJiYZ6QIAtY
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BarryRice New user Indianapolis, IN 88 Posts |
I have to say that I don't feel like this is magic. I think of it as special effects. Here is my reasoning. In one sense magicians are liars. It is just what we do. However, from a different perspective we are not. Audiences generally come in with the expectation that they are being lied to.
In my mind, a television audience perceives magic on television to be filled with lies from the magicians, props, etc., but not from the camera. Once you incorporate camera tricks it is a special effect. That being said, it can be made very entertaining. "The Blaire Witch Project" was scarier to me at first because I was gullible and bought into the premise that it was a real event. It does feel like a big lie to me, and because of that knowledge I am personally less entertained by it.
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
I believe that's the response most people get when they watch T.V. magic.
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Dan Bernier Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts |
Here's one of my problems I see with using camera tricks and special effects.
A lot of magicians back in the fifties worked extremely hard to convince t.v audiences that no camera tricks were invoved. This was important back then because people automatically assumed that camera tricks were being used. Eventually, these magicians were able to gain the trust of the audience. This was done by assuring no camera tricks were being used. This allowed the audience at home to remove any suspicion that camera tricks or editing was used. 4 decades later a young untalented musician, wanting to be a magician comes into a large amount of money. He convinces a network to pick up his t.v series while the buzz of David Blaine is still ringing. He exploits the trust than many magicians before him created amongst the t.v audience, elevating himself up to be better than any other magician whoever lived. However, put him on a stage, and he is only as talented as an amatuer with a self working trick. Criss Angel did what many other magicians could have done. Criss is not exceptional in any way, shape or form. He did what many other magicians would not do out of respect for the art and other magicians. I am pretty sure that the idea of putting on a t.v series about magic, and using a lot of stooges, and camera tricks had been thought of by other magicians. I also believe that there hasn't been a show like Criss Angel's because magicians have always held to the idea that such tactics are taboo. It's interresting to see some people take the side of allowing the special effects department, and an editing team, along with a bunch of paid actor's make the magic happen for the so-called magician. It never used to be like this.
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Alex Linian Inner circle Peru 1277 Posts |
The thing about Camera tricks as "tricks" is that they are just not good as Magic Secrets, they aren't reliable.
Most magic secrets are pretty pointless when not used within a magical performance. In real life, who would lift two cards up instead of one? or build an extra, hard-to-reach compartment at the bottom of a box? or tie stuff to a string that noone can actually see? These things are pretty useless little principles that- specifically for this reason- are used by magicians, who teach you to always keep your eyes open and find wonder in the little things. But eventually everyone will know about camera tricks as they are pretty handy for communication purposes. More and more people know about them. These expression tools are actually useful and therefore, in magic, they are lame.
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