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shamsiel Regular user 120 Posts |
I am building my Beginners coin magic kit from all the great tips and advice from the amazing fellows at the "Nothing up my sleeve" section of The Café.http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......tart=150 If you are new to coins check the kit there, Marion was the one that put it in order for me, so... I tip my hat and give credit where credit is due. Forever thankful.
I have found some expensive, and very well made, pieces for the kit. A flawless scotch and soda set, a very VERY nice half dollar expanded shell, and a beautiful C/S coin. I have not bought any of them because money hasn't grown on my trees as of late (but things are picking up) and I am kind of a tightwad. Which piece would you recommend I get first. Remember that I am a beginner and am still in my discovery phase with Bobo's. I would rather buy a good piece from the get go, even if I cant afford all, because its always good to learn an art form with the best equipment if you can afford it (IMHO). Bobos takes most of my practice time anyways but I would like to have an idea of where I am going with this. Im also reading Hay's section on Coins and comparing instructions. Let me say that without the community and the old/new search function I wouldn't be as far as I am already (well, I still suck... but I suck less than I did a few months ago.). So which one, Scotch and Soda? Half dollar expanded half Shell? C/S coin? Which one, and your reasons if you would like to share your opinion? Respects, Shamsiel |
The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
If I were you, I'd hold off on getting a gimmicked coin until you're sure about the effects you need it for, and then make the purchase when you know that the gimmicked coin will improve your magic that much more.
For the moment, just having an extra coin that the spectator doesn't know about will give you what you need to blow their minds. If you're comfortable using local currency, that means you don't really have to spend that much of anything. Incidentally, learning how to ring in (at the beginning) and clean up (at the end) with an extra coin will give you skills that will help when dealing with gaffes later on.
JACK, the Jolly Almanac of Card Knavery, a free card magic resource for beginners.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Yup. if this is beginners set, go get a roll of half dollars!
That and some pocket change are all the props you need. Add to that a good coin sleight book (I like Bill Rarr's "Now You See It Now You don't" for this as wella s basic card sleights and such) and a large (preferably full length) mirror. After that my son, all you need is practice! Gimmicked coins really coem in two varieties: (1) 1 trick self-worker sets. Cute but not very versatile and they wil likely spend most of their life in your draw. (2) Utilities, which you *really* need to know sleight of hand first to use effectively. Start with the sleight of hand, the rest will come in its time.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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rklew64 Inner circle 1265 Posts |
I so totally agree. Yep, sorry you gotta put in your work first.
I urge anyone to listen to the Magic Newswire podcast with Jamy Ian Swiss in the This Week in Magic (Archive) the red left hand box. He sums it up awesomely near the end of the interview. Now a lifelong fan. And I thought I was the only one with that sentiment. Basically he says "magicians" well just take a listen if you have the time. Finally someone says it!!!! YES. |
Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
If I had to go with one I would pick XP}.
However I agree with those suggestions above. |
Denis Bastible Loyal user Buffalo, New York 293 Posts |
If you are going to buy a gaff or gaffs, what about a Hopping Halves set (or is it Halfs?). You will get a C/S, and both expanded US half and English penny s****s. Johnson products makes it and I think you can get it for under forty dollars.
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Wravyn Inner circle 3513 Posts |
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On 2010-12-25 22:16, denisb wrote: Exactly what I was going to suggest. |
konjurer Veteran user Iowa 395 Posts |
You're list in your original post was pretty good. Scotch and Soda is a great trick and requires no skill - although you'll want to work on a nice presentation of the routine. Pick up a copy of Bobo's Modern Coin Magic book which has some nice routines for an expanded shell and the C/S coin. I use the C/S Transpo routine from Bobos and it is pretty simple and very effective.
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shamsiel Regular user 120 Posts |
Thank you all. As it has been since my very first post the opinions of the community are always right on the coins! I agree, after reading Hay, and having coins jump at me I picked up Bobo right away. My original plan was to work through Hay's book chapter by chapter and learn everything there (Not very realistic). I changed the approach to that of going where my interests are and growing from there.
I will dig through my bag of coins (None are great collectibles. Walking liberties, and those huge dollars, are cool.) I will listen to my betters and stick with Modern Coin Magic. I was thinking of buying the Gaff to give me something to do besides learning sleights for sleights sake but I figure It would be best to research gaff-less tricks that involve the sleight in my lessons. Oh! and my original post should have read (I still suck, but I suck less than I did a few WEEKS ago) Respects, Shamsiel |
Double O Magic Veteran user 365 Posts |
I, being a naive little kid on the Café, started with YouTube. I really regret not starting better. Honestly, as many others have mentioned, do not buy a gaff or gimmick for some time, at least until you are sufficient with your sleights. I do not think I am sufficient in any way. But I still find that I can entertain for a little bit. I think the main point I am getting at is that you should buy BOBO. Get a roll of halves. Some english pennies if you can. And MAYBE a C/S coin. That should keep you going for a LONG time. Once again, in no way am I really that experienced, but I am just telling you what I feel I SHOULD have done.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
A good book will hopefully teach you some routines, so you aren't just learning sleights for sleights sake
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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