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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts 
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You are partly right and partly wrong, Danny. Scientific propositions should be falsifiable; in this we completely agree. Evolution is falsifiable. This is precisely what makes questions like "can it explain eyes?" and "can it explain wings"? legitimate challenges to evolutionary theory. There are also questions of compatibility with other scientific theories, laws, data, etc. Evolutionary models are testable against genetic and biochemical results.
The same goes for global warming. The pieces that make up the claims are testable. We can test the absorption spectra of various greenhouse gases; we can compare satellite and land-based temperature data; we can compare inferences from ice cores to those of tree rings, and so on. Both evolution and global climate change are good science. That is why they are being constantly challenged and modified. The basics are very stable, but the devil, as always, is in the details. John
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Mr. Haydn,
I'm glad you noticed my allusion to that old communist's very wise and droll saying, when asked what he could ascertain about the Creator, based on his biologist's knowledge of His creation . . . according to the sources quoted by the Wikipedia, beetles comprise 40% of all insect species . . . about 450,000 beetle species have been catalogued so far (there may be many more waiting to be "discovered"!) . . . as compared with the total number of catalogued insect species (on the order of 950,000) there are only about 5,000 mammalian species . . . I will leave it up to you to decide if the Creator is more fond of the common than the rare . . . I would prefer to think that He is equally fond of every species He created . . . Woland |
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On 2011-01-02 14:46, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: It seems that you do not hold things you agree with to such strict ridgid standards as to those things you disagree with John. Can it explain eyes has NEVER been remotely done. Climate science is riddled with nonsense. You choose to believe so you choose to overlook and hold a different standard. Also not science by the way.
Danny Doyle
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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On 2011-01-02 00:20, tommy wrote: I dunno--how long will it take us to evolve into elves...or Elvis?
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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Hmmm...based on the rationale given, it DOES make more sense that "what is" is the result of an eternal omnibeing creating it all, full-blown, so that a microcosm of it, made in his own image (but with little-to-none of his understanding), could be his non-stop cheerleaders--both in this lifetime and for an endless one beyond.
... :hmm: ... :confused: ... :huh: ... :hysteric:
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts
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On 2011-01-02 18:49, Dannydoyle wrote: You guys really need to keep up with the literature and stop getting all your information from old journals from the nineteenth century. Evolutionary theory has made enormous strides since Darwin wrote his opus on the subject. It has been demonstrated how the eye could have, and most likely did evolve. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/1/l_011_01.html So to say that is has never been remotely done is incorrect. It might not have been done to your high level of satisfaction. But it has been demonstrated how the eye could have evolved through natural selection.
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2011-01-02 18:49, Dannydoyle wrote: Sorry Danny, I don't understand your question. Are you asking by what mechanism complex mammalian eyes may have evolved? Quote:
Climate science is riddled with nonsense. You choose to believe so you choose to overlook and hold a different standard. Also not science by the way. Can you be specific? As always, I make the disclaimer that I am not a qualified climate scientist. But if you raise a concrete question about the details of some claim of climate science, I will do my best to see what the issue is and to respond in the most responsible way that I can. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 188 Posts
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"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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On 2011-01-02 14:00, Dannydoyle wrote: Evolution is easily disprovable. If you can find fossil mammals in the same geological strata as trilobites then evolution would be falsified. No one has ever found such contradictory data. Ron
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2011-01-02 20:14, R.S. wrote: No that wouldn't falsify evolution. But it would show that our current chronology of life on earth is flat-out wrong. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts
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The real questions is how did the manatees survive the oil spill?
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