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conjurormatt Regular user Ft. Worth, TX 181 Posts |
Speaking of Tommy Wonder, those in the know, what type of cups did he use?
Matthew Martin
"Merely to be acquainted with the basic secret of a card trick, in no way qualifies you to perform it. Few people realize that even a simple trick in the hands of a capable performer can become a minor miracle." ~Dai Vernon |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The cups Tommy actually used were custom made for him. They were similar to a Paul Fox cup, but a little taller, perhaps about 1 cm.
A few years back, when Tommy was on a lecture tour, he had some sets that he sold, but they were not specially made. They were Morrissey "large cups." The current crop of Morrissey "large cups" in copper are just fine. However, there is no reason that you cannot do the routine with the Johnson cups. The closest set I have in the Museum to what he actually used is the copper cups by Schiller that I got while I was in Dresden a couple of years ago.
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RogueMD Regular user 133 Posts |
I feel a bit uncomfortable disagreeing with Mr Palmer, but I do not believe that the effect AS WRITTEN ("Books of Wonder" v2) by Tommy Wonder can be done with Johnson cups. I say this, from personal experimentation (lots!). The problem is the proportion of the cups and balls (and Pom-Pom load). Without giving away to much on an open forum, certain aspects of Mr Wonder's routine require the balls to be a specific size relative to the cup, and of course, that wonderful Pom-Pom load. (Mr Palmer states that the custom cups are about 1cm taller...that would be right I believe from my experimentation!)
Of course there are work arounds (which is what I'm working on).... BTW... how does one go about having "custom" cups made... just curious, it seems like it would be very expensive! Regards, Michael |
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conjurormatt Regular user Ft. Worth, TX 181 Posts |
Thanks for the info Bill,
Michael: All you need to do is contact Donnie at RNT II and tell him what you want. I've not had the pleasure, but know from other's experience that he will really go the extra mile to get a product your happy with. Like anything else custom made, I'm sure it wouldn't be terribly cheap, but Donnie has reasonable prices. Incidentally, depending on who owns the cup design (and Tommy's estate), it would be pretty cool if Donnie were to put out a Tommy wonder set (hint, hint ).
Matthew Martin
"Merely to be acquainted with the basic secret of a card trick, in no way qualifies you to perform it. Few people realize that even a simple trick in the hands of a capable performer can become a minor miracle." ~Dai Vernon |
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RogueMD Regular user 133 Posts |
Thank you Martin for the information. I will follow this lead!
Best, Michael |
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djkuttdecks Special user Portland 662 Posts |
Danny Dew PF cups.
-Lee |
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