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Too many teams.
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Well, I have been a non-wavering Green Bay Packer fan since before there were Super Bowls. I grew up in the era of Lombardi, Starr, Nitschke, Hornung, etc. I watched the Packers win Super Bowls I & II. My son is from the Brett Favre era, and watched the Packers win Super Bowl XXXI (and unfortunately lose Super Bowl XXXII).

Neither team was playing 100%, but it somewhat exemplifies the entire season for ALL NFL teams. This year had a team win their division with more losses than wins, and another division champion lose to the sixth seed wildcard team in the NFC championship game. This was not a typical year.

But the fact remains, the scoreboard shows the final of the game, and Green Bay won.

No after the fact rooting... just celebrating! It's a party here!!
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I rooted for the packers, they are so dang cute w/ cheese on their heads. That and since I prefer the niners seeing the Steelers win just isn't acceptable.
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HA! Take that Steelers!
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I have a dumb question. Green Bay is a city of 100,000 in a county with a total population of 225,000. How do they support an NFL team? Who fills the stadium?

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All of the people who left Pittsburgh.
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On 2011-02-07 11:29, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
I have a dumb question. Green Bay is a city of 100,000 in a county with a total population of 225,000. How do they support an NFL team? Who fills the stadium?

John

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"In a season where N.F.L. owners have steadily threatened to
lock out the players next year unless they secure more
profits in the next collective bargaining agreement, it's
poetic justice to see the Green Bay Packers, the team without
an owner, make the Super Bowl. Actually, it's not quite
accurate to say the Packers are without an owner. They have a
hundred and twelve thousand of them. The Packers are owned by
the fans, making them the only publicly owned, not-for-
profit, major professional team in the United States. The
Pack have been a fan-owned operation since the primitive pro
football days of the nineteen-twenties, when N.F.L. teams
could be won in card games and no one foresaw the awesome
power this sport would hold over both the American
imagination and the American wallet. "

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On 2011-02-07 11:29, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Who fills the stadium?



People from all over the world actually, but mostly from all over the state of Wisconsin. There are 75,000 people on the waiting list for seasons tickets which at the rate they turnover, equates to a 35 or 40 year wait for the people at the bottom of the list. They have had almost 300 consecutive sellouts. There is definately no shortage of people dying to see a game in Lambeau Field.
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On 2011-02-06 23:58, Dr. Magic wrote:
Here's the problem:

The players are not the calibre of players in the 50's-80's. They lack the talent and mental ability of the greats from the past. Baseball is the same.

The GREAT Jim brown says this and I agree.


lol!! Jim Brown is so full of crap. Go back and look at the guys he lined up against. 155 pound middle linebackers whose speed you could time with a calander? Some of those guys sold insurance in the off season for Petes sake. When Jim Brown played he was a man among boys many times. The great players of today have every bit of the talent and mental ability as they did in the past except for now they are incredible athletes. Bigger, faster, and stronger than ever before.
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Richer and more juiced too! Modern chemistry has sure made for an exciting sport.
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On 2011-02-07 13:00, Marlin1894 wrote:

lol!! Jim Brown is so full of crap. Go back and look at the guys he lined up against. 155 pound middle linebackers whose speed you could time with a calander? Some of those guys sold insurance in the off season for Petes sake. When Jim Brown played he was a man among boys many times. The great players of today have every bit of the talent and mental ability as they did in the past except for now they are incredible athletes. Bigger, faster, and stronger than ever before.


Records will most surely always be set and broken as long as someone is around to care and as long as someone can further split a nano second.

Ray Nitschke and Dick Butkus were hardly 155 pound middle linebackers. I stood next to Nitschke when he was in his prime, and granted I was just a kid, but that man was a monster. (He even jokingly said he was too ugly to have his picture taken!)

I ran into Bart Starr (MVP Super Bowls I & II) in the Birmingham airport a few years ago, and had a nice little conversation with him. I was of course a full grown man by then, but he was taller than me.

Fast forward 30 years... I also knew Derrick Thomas personally (RIP). He owned a restaurant where I performed. This was during his playing career. Along with his other stats, check his height and weight compared to the other Linebackers I just mentioned. They were all about the same.

For what they accomplished in their era, and what injuries many of them played through, I don't see any more toughness today. They were not "boys", unless you consider age and perhaps some occassional antics! Speed and power may be increased now, but so are safety precautions, and the advancement of medical care. Quarterbacks slide feet first for Pete's sake!!

That kind of an arguement is like saying that those who fought in WWII were not fighting as hard as those in Viet Nam.

As far as some of them "selling insurance" during the off season, do your homework and check the pay scale for pro sports players then and now. Lots of guys here who rightfully call themselves magicians, still have other jobs that support their families. Are we supposed to consider them less, too??
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I'm not sure how other Northern teams, that have an outdoor field, do it but what I've always loved about the Packers is, if there is a game at Lambeau field after a snow storm, they don't hire professionals to shovel out the stadium, they hire fans. The Packers franchise pays well over minimum wage, for the day, and feed all of the helpers.

Hundreds of people show up to work. For some it is just to be at the historic field, some to help out their team and for others it is the only job they've had in months.
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Except today... they showed up and did it for free.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/football/a......ers-home
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That's strange, because after the news story of today's shoveling they ended the report saying they still needed help to finish shoveling tomorrow and were still paying $8 an hour. One or the other report is incorrect. Who cares the Pack won the Super Bowl Smile
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I attended a pro football game outside....14 degrees on the field in the sun, 9 in the shade. It sucked.
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On 2011-02-07 23:08, x-treem wrote:

That's strange, because after the news story of today's shoveling they ended the report saying they still needed help to finish shoveling tomorrow and were still paying $8 an hour. One or the other report is incorrect. Who cares the Pack won the Super Bowl Smile

The Star is a liberal rag out of Toronto, Canada. You can never believe what it prints. Smile
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On 2011-02-07 00:36, MagicSanta wrote:
Too many teams.


Amen to that! Pretty bad when a "wild card" team catches THE division champs on a bad day and advances. If you didn't finish the regular season in 1st place that should be it, end of story...no second chances.
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Liberal? Wouldn't that be maistream?
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On 2011-02-07 23:08, x-treem wrote:

That's strange, because after the news story of today's shoveling they ended the report saying they still needed help to finish shoveling tomorrow and were still paying $8 an hour. One or the other report is incorrect. Who cares the Pack won the Super Bowl Smile

The Star is a liberal rag out of Toronto, Canada. You can never believe what it prints. Smile

Probably an irrelevant point, as there would have been enough volunteers to do this anyway. It's THEIR party.
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