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jfquackenbush Special user Out here on the desert 607 Posts |
Hi guys, I'm hoping for some suggestions to help me figure out how to sail bottoms better. I have trouble with it as a result of an old injury that left my dealing hand ring finger permanently sort of stiff and crooked. Not so much that you notice it, but it's hard to get it to do the thing you need to do to make a card sail when I take a card with my second finger. I've tried adjusting my take so that I'm taking with my index finger, but while it looks fine for normal dealing it looks ridiculous when the card comes off the bottom and just doesn't fly. I've kind of worked around the problem by aiding the sail by flicking my right wrist, but the result has two problems, first that the card spins a lot more and faster than a card that's been sailed in the usual fashion, almost like I'm tossing a frisbee and second that the hand that's taking the card needs to move a lot more than it would otherwise. I generally deal from a grip that's a compromise between the master grip and marlo's modification of the straddle grip because it works really well with my hands. Any suggestions on sources on the take with the first finger in such a grip would be helpful.
Thanks, J
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the dealer Regular user las vegas 188 Posts |
So which grip are you using when dealing bottoms?
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jfquackenbush Special user Out here on the desert 607 Posts |
The modified straddle grip. I hold the deck in my left hand and curl the pinky back to the back left corner, my index finger lays along the front so that it looks like there's less of a grip change when I want to deal centers with the allen kennedy deal ( a position I also have trouble sailing cards from for the same reasons, although I kind of get around this by switching my grip on the card after the take, but that move looks strange when I try it on a bottom and it doesn't work all that well for centers either). The deck is held between the tip of the middle finger at the forward right corner of the deck and the base of the pinky, which frees the bottoms up and keeps it from making the typical noise of a straddle grip bottom, and has the added advantage that I can bevel the deck and buckle the bottom card with my middle finger which has led to a promising greek deal I'm currently working on. The grip and the take work really well for me, so I'd hate to give up on them completely just because of the sailing problem. Any suggestions on other takes to use with the straddle grip or alternate sailing techniques would be useful.
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jjsanvert Special user Paris, France 581 Posts |
Try to use a wrist move to sail the card.
JJS
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
Quote:
On 2011-05-05 02:58, jjsanvert wrote: I believe he said he already does that, but does not like the outcome.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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jfquackenbush Special user Out here on the desert 607 Posts |
I do. I guess tho, my concern with the wrist flick is that the card spins pretty fast as it sails. Is that a problem that's just in my head, or do people think it really looks as strange as I do?
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
What about a video?
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jfquackenbush Special user Out here on the desert 607 Posts |
My cam isn't working, but thinking about it, that's probably what it will take to show people what I'm talking about. I'll try to get one put up.
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