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ilmungo Loyal user 272 Posts |
I'm usually too shy to post my stuff on this forum, but I'm working on a presentational idea that I think has potential, so I'm going to put this here to gather some suggestions, ideas, directions, and generally brainstorm where this could go.
A little background: I've been invited to give a "lightning presentation" on the Science of Magic. This means I only have 8 minutes (!) to talk about the neuroscience behind magic effects, but of course I also want to perform something. As I was playing around with a quick sponge ball routine to do at the beginning, I remembered Fitzke's principles of magic, and Penn and Teller's "seven principles of sleight of hand" routine, and an idea started forming in my head. This is just an initial train of thought. Once all the kinks are worked out and the patter tight, I think this whole thing will take less than a minute to perform. I do want to keep it short, but the idea is to cram as many "fundamental" magic effects into a sponge ball routine. Obviously, some presentational leeway is allowed, meaning one doesn't have to follow Fitzke's classification, but hopefully this will spark some ideas. Send them my way! And finally, as a point of critique: how does the "penetration" phase read? I have never seen it done before, and when thinking about it I dismissed it initially as too obvious, but later when filming it I thought it looked pretty good... Am I deceiving myself? Oh, well, here goes nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9Bzkf7sE0 |
tkuiveuxo New user 90 Posts |
I really liked it, and the penetration looks great.
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Magic_engineer New user Plymouth, MA 66 Posts |
I thought it was excellent and especillay appreciated the dry humor, but I believe there are two different threads being mixed. Straight Slieght of hand magic, for example from Penn and Teller - The seven principles are:
1.Palm - To hold an object in an apparently empty hand. 2.Ditch - To secretly dispose of an unneeded object. 3.Steal - To secretly obtain a needed object. 4.Load - To secretly move an object to where it is needed. 5.Simulation - To give the impression that something has happened that has not. 6.Misdirection - To lead attention away from a secret move. 7.Switch - To secretly exchange one object for another. (from Wikipedia) and there are science challenges, (e.g. cloning and teleportation) - I beleive mixing the two is bothersome (but maybe only to someone like me - who is into both Science and Magic) I would suggest you try to split it into to two separate presentations - one based on sleight and one based on how sponge balls can lead to scientifc discovery. Have fun. |
ilmungo Loyal user 272 Posts |
Thank you both!
Magic_engineer, I get what you are saying. I was going more for Fitzke's magic principles, which I believe are (also from Wikipedia): Production Vanish Change in position Change in material Change in form Change in color Change in size Change in temperature Change in weight Magnetism Levitation Penetration Restoration Remote control Sympathy Divination (Comprising all feats of mental magic) Prediction Obviously most of them don't apply, and anyway I was going for verisimilitude rather than realism: I don't expect lay audiences will have read Fitzke, so it doesn't matter if I fib a little. But the mix of "science" based concepts and "magic" based ones bothers me as well. Especially the last two, cloning and teleportation, don't fit quite as well. I think I can live with teleportation; after all, Harry Potter apparates, doesn't he? But what could I use instead of "cloning" to describe the same action? Some good candidates are: multiplication, duplication, reproduction, replication... Any others? Thanks for the feedback! Keep it coming! Luigi |
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