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DavidMillert New user 8 Posts |
Hey magic Café members,
lately I filmed a video with a good friend of mine basically to document some of my ideas and my progress with flourishes. I also wanted to create a video with a mysterious touch. I was inspired by Daniel Madison with this and I really would like to know what you guys think about it. Even more importantly I would like to know how I can improve myself. Every comment either positive or negative is helpful. Enjoy! Cheers David http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LgYZNq8D4w |
DavidMillert New user 8 Posts |
What a pitty, I thought I would get more feedback here. Does really nobody has a tip or a opinion on this project?
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fingerjack Special user CT, USA 574 Posts |
Hi David,
Unfortunately, not many lovers of the pasteboards frequent this section. Don't ask me why...it's the ol' magician VS. Juggler thing and this place is THE MAGIC Café after all. I liked the video and you have some great skills. If I were forced to find flaw, I would mention a few things that are only my opinion.... In today's day and age, flourish videos (or X-treme card manipulation, or Cardistry or Card Artistry or whatever you want to call them) are a dime a dozen, and those are just the good ones. It's very hard to create something different and visual that people haven't seen before. To the knowledgeable, it is more of the same. To the lay person I am sure it is impressive, but many moves will look the same to them and I suspect they would grow weary after a minute or so. I'm not a big fan of all the cuts and flashes; I find them extremely distracting, but I know that revamped MTV style is all the rage these days. Your skill should shine through without all the flashy effects (or course yours aren't as bad as some of the seizure inducing ones I have seen). In my opinion they only detract from it. As mentioned above...a tad bit long. As beautiful as it may be, woods and playing cards don't have too much in common except main ingredients. Even a die hard card junkie may start practicing clip-shift before it ends. I don't think shots from the waste looking up are flattering, nor do they give the audience a good look of what is happening. The few I saw all looked the same. So before it appears I am a know-it-all, let me say that I thought it was indeed a great video. Nice photography (I liked the rack focus and the black and white), great moves (top shots were great-if that's what they were). The music fit fine (and wow, you had permission to use it!). I can tell you have a passion for what you do and you do it well...maybe just tighten it up a bit, lose some repetition (even if you didn't repeat a single move, trust me when I say that to laymen most Sybil based cuts all look the same, especially when there are literally hundreds of variations). Not putting you down bro, good job! Just giving the advice maybe you were looking for. Keep up the good work.
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Suren Veteran user Armenia 314 Posts |
I liked the editing and camera work.Color corrections were also good, liked that monochromatic look. But here are tips.
First :: I would not put pass, top change and top shot in such video. Second :: Try to edit more to the beat. Third :: The video was a little bit long for me. Forth :: I see a lot of Madison onspired stuff and that's alright. Nut do not apply the same raw style to DnD flourishes. By the way you have a lot of room to workk on, you are not bad though. Fifth :: The angle on slow mo spring at the end was to low. And finally a huge tip! Speed is not the most important thing, smoothen the flourishes out first then try to add speed. Flourishes look good even when done slowly check out videos of Tobias Levin for an idea. don't try to do them fast. you are good now but there is no limit for perfection. This is just constructive criticism nothing negative at all. Hope I helped you out. |
DavidMillert New user 8 Posts |
@fingerjack WOW! At first I'd like to thank you for taking the time to give me such a profound answer.The critizism you gave voice to is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for your advice and I ll keep it mind. This was very helpful.
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DavidMillert New user 8 Posts |
@Suren Your tips are also very helpful! Thank you! I ll try to work on smoothness and play around with different styles of videos in future. Thanks a lot for your tips on camera work!
But why not putting pass and top change in a video like that? I mean I put it in there so laymen as well as flourishers are not bored in the middle of the video. Personally I like the mix of magic and flourishes but that's a matter of taste. Thanks again for your constructive criticism. |
fingerjack Special user CT, USA 574 Posts |
@Dave Glad it was helpful. Be sure to let us know about your next project!
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chrom Regular user 110 Posts |
I really enjoyed the video's and I definitely got the same Daniel Madison vibe you were going for. As others mentioned it was a little long but I did stick in through the end and enjoyed it.
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
I know that complicated two-handed multiple cut/flourishes are in vogue now, but to my eyes they all look the same and generate confusion rather than wonder. I limit my one-hand cuts to the Charlier Pass, the divided Charlier Pass, and the Butterfly Cut. I might throw in the one-hand shuffle with the Notis Cascade, and a one-hand Juggler's Cut that was taught to me back in the mid-1960's by a friend of mine. Basically, for the Juggler's Cut you hold the deck in the left hand. Left thumb riffles down to the middle of the deck. Insert left thumb at that break. Left hand goes up and quickly drops so that the top half stays briefly in place. Then the left hand moves above the top half and the top half is caught between the forefinger and the lower three fingers of the left hand.
I hope that made sense. I end with the slop shuffle and revelation of a selected card as the only reversed card. I am 100% convinced that a lay person sees no difference between the effect of the slop shuffle and Vernon's Triumph. The effect in both techniques is the same in a lay person's eyes: A card is selected and returned to the deck. Then the cards are shuffled so that some are face up and some face down. The magician says a magic word, and the cards are suddenly all facing the same direction--except for the selected card. The advantage of doing the slop shuffle version is that it can be done walk-around without the need for a table. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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Eric the Excellent Loyal user Montana 234 Posts |
As this is not exactly an area of my expertise, all I have to say about your skills is "pretty".
The video itself was pretty cool too but I agree about the need to edit to the beat of the song. |
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