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tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
Seriously, I have never heard of going to this extent before.
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blackstone99 Regular user 169 Posts |
This is for real?
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Aaron Smith Magic Inner circle Portland, OR 1447 Posts |
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
I love Lee's work...but seriously? Here's my method.
Step 1: Remove outer wrapping from box. Step 2: Remove seal from box. Step 3: Remove cards from box discarding the advertising cards. Step 4: Spring the cards a couple of times. TADA! You're all set and ready to go! I'm not saying that Lee's method isn't genuine, but why would I drop 10 hours to condition a deck of cards that I'll use for a week or two and then trash anyway?
In Mystery,
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jugglestruck Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts |
I did a walkabout gig today and got through two packs. I presume this conditioning is for hardcore card magic, probably for other magicians.
Christophers advice for preparation is pretty good but I find the card spring a bit OTT |
Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
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On 2012-02-14 14:27, jugglestruck wrote: Also, springing the cards is a great way to get people to notice you...a way to break the ice. It's amazing to me how many people could care less about the magic you do, but want to watch you spring the cards. Go figure...!
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Christopher Lyle Magician, Comic, Daredevil, and Balloon Twisting Genius For a Good Time...CLICK HERE! |
tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
I really like lees material,his controls and effects are awesome, but all this hype about playing card quality to me is just that, hype. I mean seriously if you busk or do a lot of walk around & table side magic you have to go through cards. I can not see spending more than a couple of dollars on a deck of cards when bicycles always do the job.
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mahucharn Elite user 418 Posts |
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On 2012-02-14 15:40, Christopher Lyle wrote: This (or a coin roll) is what I do in order to establish my presence as a performer. If I'm just fiddling around with my cards/springing the cards, people will typically ask me to show them a trick or two. It's something that looks very visual and professional that will create a mystery about you and make people start believing that you're actually capable of performing great magic. |
Daz Buckley Elite user Australia 469 Posts |
I'm with Christopher Lyle on this one. I would not spend 10 hours on a deck when I am going to give away 20 cards a night to spectators and have to do it all again tomorrow.
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pepka Inner circle Uh, I'm the one on the right. 5041 Posts |
It looks as if this is specifically for the Fornier 605 cards. I occasionally use them and I will say that they get better, the more you use them. So, this makes a bit of sense.
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jugglestruck Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts |
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On 2012-02-14 15:40, Christopher Lyle wrote: My comment was meant to be tongue in cheek |
Aaron Smith Magic Inner circle Portland, OR 1447 Posts |
Lee doesn't have much (if any) effects where spectator's sign a card, or a card is destroyed. So for those purposes, where you're using the same deck over and over again for a long period of time, it would make sense to spend that amount of time to condition a deck. For guys like us, who have cards signed over an over again for the purposes of giveaways, which make for great advertising, probably wouldn't use this method. I go through decks so fast that I don't condition them at all. I just got used to handling a new deck, in fact now I prefer it.
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Sir Richard Special user 650 Posts |
I only use about 10 or so easy to do slieghts. I imagine that if you're a "knuckle-buster," this may be a useful thing to do.
Sir Richard.
"In the land of Murphy there is but ONE law!"
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djw.tyler New user 20 Posts |
As someone has already said, this document is only intended for Lee's own Fournier playing cards and he maintains that they are only at their best after hours of conditioning, whereas 'American' playing cards will never improve once they are removed from the box. I only have experience with 'American' playing cards so I can't comment on that part but Pepka seems to back it up. There are also instructions for washing the cards if you are inclined to do so as they are sprayed with a varnish.
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volto Special user 603 Posts |
Although it sounds dumb, this is definitely a sensible thing to do with the Fourniers. Even standard Fournier 505s go through a few phases - fine out of the box, then 'clumpy', then gradually back to fine, then awesome. It's to do with the unusual smooth finish on these specific cards - the advantage is that they work brilliantly for DLs and friction moves once they're in condition, and they're very hard wearing, especially in humid climates or when used intensively. It's also easier to present 2+ cards as 1 because of the precision of the cut, which is the best I've ever seen.
So, it's a sensible thing to do with these cards, but probably not with others. I'm a recent Fournier convert so I've just been through this exact learning curve. |
sevenup Regular user South Carolina 179 Posts |
What about sealing the edges on bikes? Isn't there a way to quickly seal the edges so they don't absorb as much oil from the hands and therefore make then last a little longer?
Pick a card, any card at all. Just don't pick a RED spade.
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