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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts 
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Bunkyhenry-- first I would assume he is working with a kid - maybe not but I agree with Jamie!
I have always encouraged kids to show me a trick if they know one. at my restaurant it has become almost part of the night that 2 or 3 times there will be a kid that wants to show me a trick. some times they bring their own tricks and after they perform it I spend a few moments offering some tips and ideas. Mom and Dad LOVE THIS! that is what it is about. not whether they are really good or they are just an amateur it is about the feel good moment the kid is having show a real live magician his own trick to the kid I am a big time celebrity-- ok maybe not a big time but certainly it is a special moment for that kid and for his parents. whether at a show or where ever I try to always let the kids show me a trick. even once in a while an adult but I can usually tell if they are there to just try to upstage me or the really want to show a trick. end result is we are really there to create those happy memories for every one and if that means stepping out the spot light for a few moments then that is what we do - in reality stepping out of the spotlight will actually go a long way with your audience. they notice these things sam
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elimagic Inner circle 1664 Posts
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On 2012-02-14 23:37, Frank Starsini wrote: Trained your wife??? Now THAT is a great a trick! 
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Jamie D. Grant V.I.P. as seen in Ripley's Believe It or Not! Twice! 2413 Posts
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On 2012-02-19 09:31, bunkyhenry wrote: Great question. First of all, I should specify that this would be for a Walk Around Corporate gig. If someone is yelling this at me while I'm on stage then I've got an entire host of problems, lol (this has yet to happen, lol). And, while this is only my own opinion, I have to say that if I've reached a level with the group that someone is comfortable enough to ask this question- then I'm doing everything right. My goal for Walk Around gigs is to create an atmosphere- one of fun, excitement and, (this is key), kindness. I'm not a "look at what I'm doing and clap at me performer". I'm a "we're all having a great time and becoming friends" type of guy. Allowing the spec to have his moment to shine (and you can be relatively sure that it's a trick he can do fairly well- I've never had anyone want to embarrass themselves) simply brings the group further along onto your side. Is his "location" trick going to be better than my Torn and Restored? Probably not. But the audience isn't ranking us in order. They see that I've been nice to their friend, or coworker, I've encouraged a good time, and I've left them better than when I arrived. I believe that refusing that request would only harbor a silent resentment from at least one of the group- and for me that's one too many. I honestly can't say, however, as I've never turned it down. And the times the spec has done something and it hasn't worked as well as he would have liked, I've simply said, "Hey, that wasn't bad, right? Here, you keep the cards and I'll hang out with these beautiful woman. No? I don't blame you. Here, let me show you one more before I go then..." It reminds me of something that Barrie Richardson once told me. He said, "My only goal as a performer is for them to ask, "When can we have him back?"" I appreciate different opinions- to be sure- this is just the way I've always done it and it's always worked for me, jamie
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts
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Let's do the math. Corporate walkaround situation...five executives, one insists on showing his 21 card trick. I tell the other four that they should patiently watch and be nice to the guy. Result? Five people (four specs and ME) have a lousy time and one has a wonderful time. How is making five people watch a lousy amateur magician and pretending to like it making sure EVERYONE has a wonderful time?
Also a good chance that the group gangs up on the guy and makes fun of him as they get bored with the piles and he screws up the effect. Bottom line: Those executives did not come to the party to be forced to watch their associates perform lousy magic tricks. |
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Jamie D. Grant V.I.P. as seen in Ripley's Believe It or Not! Twice! 2413 Posts
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I guess I believe that the performer owes the client the ability to ensure everyone has a good time- even when the cards aren't in his hands.
And, in your example, there's five executives: who's asking to do the trick? Is it the CEO of your client company? And you're not going to let him? Is is someone they've invited to try and close a deal- and you're going to refuse him? And, just so I get this straight, if he does do it- surely you don't stand still and let others mock him? Me, I'd absolutely let him. And if he actually said, "Hey, is there a table here? I want to show you guys something." (which doesn't happen, but we'll go with it) then I can gauge very quickly who he is by how the others respond and what needs to be done. And you can guarantee that we're all going to have a blast (including him) while he does it. I might delete this post as I'm not sure how it reads and I try to never argue online (or in person, lol). Let me just end by saying if you're successful at your approach and it works for you, just ignore my ramblings. I'm only offering what works for me. All my best! ~jamie
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Erdnase27 Inner circle 2505 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 12:21, Lash wrote: in europe its 50$ for 12 decks (quite ridiculous) so yea.. thatrs a good price. |
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts
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Jamie No problem. There is no arguement. I appreciate the way you keep it light. What I am saying is that when you state "I believe that the performer owes the client the ability to ensure everyone has a good time- even when the cards aren't in his hands." that this is sometimes not possible to ensure. It is the "everyone" that cannot always be achieved. And yes I stand still and let the others mock him...just like they do at the office!
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts
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On 2012-02-20 13:24, bunkyhenry wrote: Perhaps with Jamie, it can. It seems like he works pretty hard at it. Alan |
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Jefferson New user 58 Posts
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Have you ever walked up to someone and asked if you could show them a card trick? What did they say to you?
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borderjs New user 51 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 12:21, Lash wrote: I had a friend just go to Sam's the other day and said he saw 12 for 8$.. Maybe he was mistaken. |
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts
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On 2012-02-21 09:28, Jefferson wrote: No I have not. |
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David Thiel Inner circle Western Canada...where all that oil is 4005 Posts
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No one every blew a show by being gracious.
The job is about entertainment...making people happy. In short -- it's about people. Not tricks. David
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3504 Posts
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No one every blew a show by being gracious. David, it is possible to do all of that while still not giving up the stage to an amateur magician. There is nothing "ungracious" about handing someone your card and saying "Let's have lunch sometime and we can talk shop but I'm sure you understand that I've got limited time this afternoon". Most here seem to agree that letting a guest show a trick could work under certain circumstances. In my case I would only do it if I was dealing with a very small group who all had a vested interest. Two Examples" 1) Young kid wants to show me a trick while his family watches. Not a large group but just his family. 2) Older gentleman wants to show me a trick while his wife watches. Now imagine the case of a table of high school basketball players. They are enjoying my set and shouting "Wow" and "OMG" and everything is going well. Then one guy says "let me show you one" and I graciously hand over the pack. Is he going make sure the trick he selects fits the criteria that I would have chosen to entertain that group at that time? Of course not. Is he going be "gracious" to the people he uses in his trick. Maybe, maybe not. Is he going to hand me the deck back right after the trick? One time a guy insisted on showing a trick and I let him. His trick consisted of "accidently" dropping a card on the floor and asking a nearby guest to pick it up. When the guest bent down to pick it up he then forcefully threw the deck onto his back and laughed as the cards scattered. In his judgement this was a highly succesful magic moment. In my judgement it was not. |
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts
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So if you guys were on stage, would it be alright for a heckler to come up and take over?
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts
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On 2012-02-16 13:32, Jamie D. Grant wrote: AMEN !!!!! If the spectator feels good...Its ok with me ! -H
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts
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On 2012-02-22 07:39, Hansel wrote: My point is that making the one spectator feel good at the expense of several others is not ok with me! |
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bunkyhenry Special user NYC Metro 828 Posts
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On 2012-02-21 14:23, MeetMagicMike wrote: Great post! Your two examples of allowing tricks to be shown are very good exeptions. |
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