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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws
I wonder what a police report would say about our act if they took it as real.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Methinks that if they can answer any of these questions accurately the magic effect wasn't very strong. So, the report should reflect that ten spectators were asked these questions and each gave a different set of answers -- making them lousy witnesses to the crime, but a tribute to the magic.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1609 Posts |
I think we should also be concerned with a sixth W - Whatever!
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
I have come back to this over and over. Fascinating.
I have to assume that 'real' meaning using some form of actual supernatural power to accomplish the magic. My conclusion after spending too much time: It wouldn't matter. The questions are simply used to describe as accurately as possible what was seen, heard, where it happened, etc. Of the five the only difficult one in the absence of someone confessing would be 'why'. Other than that I don't see any difficulty and actually less difficulty when placed against folks trying for a description of a crime. The one happens unannounced and the surprise is unwelcome. The other happens with about as much anticipation as possible and the surprise is anticipated and looked for. Cool idea though....
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Michael Kamen Inner circle Oakland, CA 1315 Posts |
Presumably, if they "took our act as real", i.e., that it is not merely a magic show, their interest in it would still be motivated by the missing "H".
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
If a cop saw you put your hand right through the glass of a shop window and take a diamond ring would it matter to the cop if he could not explain the how of it? Who told you that you could steal as if by magic and get away it?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Michael Kamen Inner circle Oakland, CA 1315 Posts |
Wall, that stretches the implications of "our act", but under that condition H would likely take a backseat to the priorities of a cop.
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Darwin Ortiz V.I.P. 486 Posts |
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On 2012-09-15 17:55, tommy wrote: http://www.mysterylist.com/lockedrm.htm http://www.halwhitebooks.com/suggested.php |
tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Cool! Thank you Mr Ortiz, I love those sort of things.
Yes it would matter to the cops mind but not to the law I think. One is not allowed to steal even by magic. But I not sure, if the crime is impossible then how could they say you did it. They would be in a dilemma.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Michael Kamen Inner circle Oakland, CA 1315 Posts |
Circumstantial evidence can convict.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
And possession of a stolen object can also be a crime -- regardless of how obtained.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
You can't be in possession of a stolen object if they can't prove it to be stolen and if they say you or someone were seen to put your hand right through the glass of a shop window and take a diamond ring, then you would ask, are you out for a laugh?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Johnny Butterfield Veteran user 378 Posts |
Proving the item to be stolen and in one's possession doesn't necessarily require the details of the theft to be proven.
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
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On 2012-09-17 10:03, tommy wrote: Not at all. All that's needed is all that's ever needed: You simply have to prove that something you own has migrated against your wishes to the possession of someone else. You tell the police that it appeared as if the criminal reached through solid glass and took it. Since we know that's impossible it must have been set up in advance like many magic tricks are. They examine the glass. They find the secret. Moron who actually let folks see him do the crime goes to prison. Or, if the argument is that he really CAN DO magic and reach through glass to steal something ala any number of television shows, etc. then he's proven even more of a moron for he had the ability to do so unseen and decided to 'tip his hat'. What an amateur.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
If the crime of the theft of the goods in question was factually impossible to commit then how can the goods possibly be stolen?
When a magician does the impossible it does not make it possible because he done it does it? :)
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
Ouch!
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Michael Kamen Inner circle Oakland, CA 1315 Posts |
Awww jeeezze.
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