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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
It's really 30's style. Guys look like Al Capone, all girls are blonde and those who have class have gaiters on their shoes.
It's quite entertaining though. Ed Robinson is a very happy guy (and a good soul) all along the movie. Scenes about illegal Gambling are not many but it's cool because word playing with trimmed/shaved cards (he is a Greek barber). Nice scenes though, because you can see how they played in the 30's (I like the hole in the ceiling to monitor the Roulette table). The English used is fantastic to me, non English speaking native. I like when he says "it's a cinch", the kind of thing I don't hear that much! People look like this: http://archive.org/details/CEP189 The bridge is this. At the end of the movie he goes to jail (sentenced for 10 years). While taking a last bet (!) the final picture appears and it's a Royal Flush in Diamonds. Yes, the same hand making him win in "The Cincinnati Kid". Any question about Gambling movies? Ask Uncle Arnie . |
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts |
I was in the movie. I was working on Bourbon street and was an AGVA representive when the movie was being filmed (about 1963). The call came out for movie extras to the AGVA offices so naturally I jumped in. I am in the opening crowd scene walking into the cemetary. I'm the good looking one
BTW: the outdoor rain scenes were all done with a rain machine that made it look like it was raining - very inventive these Hollywood types. Nope, did not meet any of the stars.
Et tu, Spartacus?
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NicholasD Inner circle 1458 Posts |
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On 2012-09-13 19:48, AMcD wrote: No, they were just friends. |
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PapaG Special user 851 Posts |
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On 2012-09-13 19:07, tomsk192 wrote: Fine enough, but I was expecting/would have preferred a clip of Ann-Margret covered in chocolate in 'Tommy'.... |
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
Greatest poker movie of all-time.
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
One of the best, surely. The greatest, I don't know. "Rounders" depicts the world of card players with some accuracy. About mere gambling, "The Gambler" (1974) and "California Split" (1974 too) are really good too.
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2012-09-16 19:55, AMcD wrote: The final winning hand in the "Cincinnati Kid" is a Queen high straight flush. Not a Royal. |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2012-09-16 15:22, tommy wrote: Speaking of string, I thought Shooter specifically said "no string bets". |
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
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On 2013-01-04 14:14, Marlin1894 wrote: Oops! You are perfectly right . That said, I still maintain that the only way to have that kind of hands at the same time is because Lady Fingers was cheating for Lancey Howard. The Kid should have folded his hand or put him all-in long before the last card. |
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NicholasD Inner circle 1458 Posts |
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On 2013-01-04 15:48, AMcD wrote: It's just a movie. |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2013-01-04 15:48, AMcD wrote: I actually had to go back and look. I knew for sure that Lancey turned over the JD to show he had the nuts, but I was pretty sure, even as unlikely as the hands were, that the filmmakers didn't have the gall to make it a Royal. lol! |
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Cagliostro Inner circle 2478 Posts |
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On 2013-01-04 15:48, AMcD wrote: Arnold, are you serious? As Marlin1894 said, "It's just a movie." The last hand had to be flamboyant to create a sensational effect. As I said in my original post, it didn't matter what the last hand was, the main theme was that the Kid was being set up by Lancey Howard and eventually would have been trapped. However, as an interesting aside, Richard Marcus, "The World's Greatest Casino Cheat," stated in Dirty Poker that his grandfather told him the last hand was rigged because it was impossible for two hands like that to occur and be played in that manner without cheating. So, you are in good company Arnold - both you and Richard Marcus' grandfather are in total agreement. |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2013-01-04 17:25, Cagliostro wrote: I agree that the final hand doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of the film. It was played for maximum drama, not maximum realism. But beyond that I have a couple of practical reasons for rejecting the idea, which I have heard other people put forth as well. 1. There is nothing about that in the book. and 2.If that were the case it would be a part of the story. Which means by leaving it out of the film Norman Jewison would be guilty of poor storytelling. This was an early film for Jewison but he has never been accused of not knowing how to tell a story on film. He's one of the all time great directors. If it were part of the story it would have been on the screen. P.S. Just for the record it was NicholasD who made the "only a movie" remark. It is only a movie, but it's fun to talk about. I do agree with Cag though on the larger points that can be taken from the film. |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
P.S. Just for the record it was NicholasD who made the "only a movie" remark. It is only a movie, but it's still fun to talk about. I do agree with Cag though on the larger points that can be taken from the film.
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
What? It's only a movie? *** it!
More seriously, what I think about the ending of the movie is a question that many people have been asking themselves too. It's not that weird to think Lady Finger could have cheated for Lancey, after all Shooter was doing it for The Kid... About the final hand, I just read it's not the same "display" in the novel and in the movie. I haven't read the book but apparently the way they did it in the movie is more realistic. If the Kid would see 8-9-T-J suited (like it is in the novel), sure he couldn't call without fear (unless being a poor player). In the movie, only one out (Lancey's Jack) can beat him, so he takes "normal" chances. I won't answer that much about Richard Marcus. I exchanged a couple of emails a few years ago and all I can say is that the word modesty has certainly been removed out of his dictionaries. There's one thing I have never understood about him. How can he brag that loud he cheated casinos? I understand that white bones are uncommon in Nevada's desert now, but... I mean, in the USA, you can, publicly, boasting that you fleeced a casino? He can't be sued? How weird! |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
Let me preface these remarks by saying, yes, I know it's only a movie as well. lol!
First,I don't believe the actual poker play itself is all that critical. In most gambling related movies, even the great ones, the game play is not true to life. Again, looking at it from the standpoint of "story". If the story was that The Kid got cheated, it would have completly undercut the entire film. Of all the possible morals, or messages, that can be taken from the story one of them is certainly "be careful what you wish for". Or maybe "When you strike at a king, you'd better kill him". The Kid wanted only one thing; to beat "The Man", and beat him on the square. He had his chance. He got his shot... And he lost. That's the story. If they would have had him being cheated out of the win, instead of being beaten on the square, it would have weakened the whole thing considerably in my opinion. |
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AMcD Inner circle stacking for food! 3078 Posts |
I think you convinced me .
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
Ha! Well, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything, just my opinions of course. We all agree it's an awesome movie. But I'll say this; if you enjoyed our little exchange here, then maybe you got one of your top New Years wishes. lol! Take care!
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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On 2013-01-04 20:06, Marlin1894 wrote: That's about the most perfect summary of a movie I've ever read. |
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padre rich Special user 635 Posts |
Years ago I worked with wally wall, the propmaster on the picture.he told me that because the money had to lay on the table so long and be photographed so close,he went to the earl hayes press,who do work for the picture business.he ordered money that looked more real than the standard bulk stuff and used it in the scenes.about three weeks after the picture wrapped the FBI showed up at his door.it seems an extra had spent about $1500 of the prop money between hollywood and texas.true story...brick tilley
God's grace rocks! It makes a good cups and balls routine look pretty boring in comparison.
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